New posts

Mass shooting in Florida.

July 11, 2016, 12:58 p.m.
Posts: 3158
Joined: Nov. 23, 2002

I hope the NSW Police Commissioner is good enough for you, rather than snopes. http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2013/08/21/aussie-politician-complains-about-u-s-gun-laws-but-gun-crime-in-sydney-is-out-of-control/

your breitbart article provides no data, stats or links to research. it says nothing as to whether gun crimes rates have increased or decreased. it is simply an opinion piece. if you run a google search on australia's gun reforms it is easy to see that most results back up a decrease in gun violence in australia and many of the others call out that reports of the increases false. further, if the only evidence you can find to support your view is from a politically crafted opinion website then i suggest you spend some time figuring out what qualifies as reliable information.

i guess you missed/ignored it, but the first link i provided contained info from a peer reviewed scientific journal. the snopes was simply there for light reading and in spite of you looking down on it, it does a far better job of providing reliable information than the breitbart article you tried to pass off as verifiable data.

I'm not - you're just off-topic again by saying I am. Big difference.

you made the point of saying that obama blames guns.

We don't know what our limits are, so to start something with the idea of being limited actually ends up limiting us.
Ellen Langer

July 11, 2016, 1 p.m.
Posts: 8552
Joined: Nov. 15, 2002

oh and by the way, your australia example isn't entirely accurate either.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/865295#vp_2

http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp

but if you have a source to share that shows otherwise please post it up so we all can evaluate it.

Relevant quote:

Regardless of how much of a cause-and-effect relationship there might be between the NFA and gun deaths in Australia, it's undeniable that the firearms homicide rate in that country has decreased substantially since the implementation of the NFA. It's not the case, however, as suggested by the misleading and long out-of-date online piece quoted in the Example block above (which was written way back in 2001) that the overall crime rate in Australia has shot up since the NFA was introduced. The rates of various types of violent crimes (sexual assault, kidnapping, homicides of all types) have scarcely changed at all, and while the robbery rate rose substantially in the 1998-2001 timeframe, it dropped below its pre-NFA level by 2004 and has continually declined since then:

July 11, 2016, 1:21 p.m.
Posts: 8552
Joined: Nov. 15, 2002

Zed - do you think Canada would be safer with more relaxed gun laws and more firearms in the hands of 'lawful citizens?'

July 11, 2016, 1:28 p.m.
Posts: 13940
Joined: March 15, 2003

Zed - do you think Canada would be safer with more relaxed gun laws and more firearms in the hands of 'lawful citizens?'

No - our gun laws are great as is the social welfare more or less of our citizens. We have had a good balance of social morality over our brief 149 years together.

Again, based on data alone - most gun homicides in Canada are committed in Manitoba, by male natives, against family members. Very much a social issue that could and should be addressed, rather than prejudice the whole by the actions of a few. [HTML_REMOVED]--the same fight us mountain bikers challenged against for years.

July 11, 2016, 1:44 p.m.
Posts: 16818
Joined: Nov. 20, 2002

your breitbart article provides no data, stats or links to research. it says nothing as to whether gun crimes rates have increased or decreased. it is simply an opinion piece.

New headline for the article "Police commissioner states need for more police".

In other news, my barber says I need a haircut, my meth dealer says I need another hit, and BC realtors say there's no better time than now to buy a home.

When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity.

When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion.

July 11, 2016, 2:09 p.m.
Posts: 11969
Joined: June 4, 2008

and BC realtors say there's no better time than now to buy or sell a home.

FYP

July 11, 2016, 4:25 p.m.
Posts: 8935
Joined: Dec. 23, 2005

https://www.instagram.com/p/BHvJnfRjIMH/?taken-by=goodgodabove

"Birth Control?
BAN IT.
Abortion?
BAN IT.
Gay Marriage?
BAN IT.
Guns?
Look, banning things never works. People find ways to get them."

July 11, 2016, 4:34 p.m.
Posts: 34072
Joined: Nov. 19, 2002

Then why ban anything?

It is easy to dodge our responsibilities, but we cannot dodge the consequences of dodging our responsibilities.
- Josiah Stamp

Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race.
- H.G. Wells

July 11, 2016, 6:41 p.m.
Posts: 13940
Joined: March 15, 2003

https://www.instagram.com/p/BHvJnfRjIMH/?taken-by=goodgodabove

"Birth Control?
BAN IT.
Abortion?
BAN IT.
Gay Marriage?
BAN IT.
Guns?
Look, banning things never works. People find ways to get them."

All of these are legal in Canada, thankfully. Nothing to fear except fear itself.

July 11, 2016, 6:56 p.m.
Posts: 13940
Joined: March 15, 2003

Interesting point of view from a black police officer in the States; complete with all kinds of FBI stats

http://imgur.com/gallery/sKabZ

For those that are tl;dr

So - what is the protest and police officers getting shot all about?

July 11, 2016, 7:17 p.m.
Posts: 7566
Joined: March 7, 2004

Interesting point of view from a black police officer in the States; complete with all kinds of FBI stats

http://imgur.com/gallery/sKabZ

For those that are tl;dr

So - what is the protest and police officers getting shot all about?

Shouldn't the police should be held to a much higher standard than the general population when it comes to killing people? Yes, far more black people are killed by other black people than the police. That doesn't somehow excuse when police kill black people (or anyone for that matter).

July 11, 2016, 7:21 p.m.
Posts: 44
Joined: Sept. 28, 2013

Interesting point of view from a black police officer in the States; complete with all kinds of FBI stats

http://imgur.com/gallery/sKabZ

So - what is the protest and police officers getting shot all about?

If you read the follow up comments, parts of that post appear to be fake. Doing your due diligence is important if you want to seem credible.

Here is the link to his actual FB post which is the same as the main body of the Reddit post.
https://www.facebook.com/jay.stalien/posts/911372818974402

The info graphic included though and which you decided to share has been thoroughly debunked already.

July 11, 2016, 7:32 p.m.
Posts: 13940
Joined: March 15, 2003

If you read the follow up comments, parts of that post appear to be fake. Doing your due diligence is important if you want to seem credible.

Here is the link to his actual FB post which is the same as the main body of the Reddit post.
https://www.facebook.com/jay.stalien/posts/911372818974402

The info graphic included though and which you decided to share has been thoroughly debunked already.

I guess we'll just take your valuable FB and Reddit word for it. Please show us the light and not just point out 'you're wrong' - already debunked that value a few pages ago. :lol:

July 11, 2016, 7:35 p.m.
Posts: 44
Joined: Sept. 28, 2013

One of the questions that's been brought up is trying to figure out why these police shootings of black men happen. The answer falls in prejudice, the type where we may not even be aware it's happening. This happens to police officers as well and is a significant part of the message that Jane Elliot try's to put forward in her eye experiments that others here have shared.

To get a better understanding take a few minutes to read through this as it helps to explain some of the psychology on why we have prejudicial thoughts.

http://www.vox.com/2014/8/28/6051971/police-implicit-bias-michael-brown-ferguson-missouri

July 11, 2016, 7:45 p.m.
Posts: 2285
Joined: Feb. 5, 2005

https://www.instagram.com/p/BHvJnfRjIMH/?taken-by=goodgodabove

"Birth Control?
BAN IT.
Abortion?
BAN IT.
Gay Marriage?
BAN IT.
Guns?
Look, banning things never works. People find ways to get them."

Which is why I am urging everyone I can down here to vote libertarian. Enough victimless crimes. Let people do what they want, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else.

Don't like abortion? Don't get one.

Don't like gun? Don't get one.

Don't like pot? Don't smoke it.

All of these are legal in Canada, thankfully. Nothing to fear except fear itself.

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

That's the problem with cities, they're refuges for the weak, the fish that didn't evolve.

I don't want to google this - sounds like a thing that NSMB will be better at.

Forum jump: