they are actually asking this question. jesus h christ…
http://www.msnbc.com/news/778726.asp?0cm=c32
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they are actually asking this question. jesus h christ…
http://www.msnbc.com/news/778726.asp?0cm=c32
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That's ridiculous.
Look at the stats too, 75% say yes. Scary and disgusting.
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Its up to 82%. :censored: insane. I swear the people answering yes are worse than alquada(SP).
Oh ok, I didn't know he was the big mastermind guy.
I thought he was just some dude they picked up.
Still, it doesn't seem too cool to do that…
shop smart, shop s-mart, mhm
How are they worse than Al-Qaeda? If this guy knows something like where Bin Laden is or if there is going to be another attack on U.S. (or maybe even Canadian) soil, do you think he will just tell them? No.
If they need to torture this guy, to get information that will save millions of lives, it's fine with me.
yeah we all know that talking civily to suicide bombers gets alot done :rolleyes:
i guess if he wont tell us anything we should let him go even if that means 10,000 more have to die before we get enough info:rolleyes:
you thinks it is sick that the man behind over 3,000 deaths and billions of dollars in damage should be interrogated until all information is out of him? i guess its better to let a murderer live in peace than it is to allow innocent people to live at all:rolleyes:
throw him in isolation
i dont care who he is. i am saying that if we take the moral high ground, we gotta stay there.
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this is a great subject for debate
yes if he was not important then no it would be wrong but morally we have to do what ever it takes to save the greater number of lives and if that means torturing one of the highest ranked members of alqaida then do it, he forfieted his rights when he decided to take those lives on 9/11, it is more of a crime to allow those responsible to get away with the crime and possibly commit an act greater than the one on 9/11 than to get the information violently out of one man
There is no need for torture these days, they have drugs that do the job better and more reliably:D :P ;)
Originally posted by Smoke
8 weeks in Whistler + greenhorn English boy = venereal disease + compound fractures + angry collection agency pursuing you around the world.
Originally posted by evolution
**yeah we all know that talking civily to suicide bombers gets alot done :rolleyes:i guess if he wont tell us anything we should let him go even if that means 10,000 more have to die before we get enough info:rolleyes:
you thinks it is sick that the man behind over 3,000 deaths and billions of dollars in damage should be interrogated until all information is out of him? i guess its better to let a murderer live in peace than it is to allow innocent people to live at all:rolleyes: **
do you ever look at the other side of things, serioulsy??
I think it is sick. Yes what happened was terrible but what is still :censored: happening is terrible.
this is like the whole camp x-ray thing where the prisoners were getting hot showers and such every day it just redicoulous potshots at america becasue they are more powerful than other countries
the terrorits were not fighting as part of a nations army therefore they are not POWs they were still treated well, but they were vigilantes
have you guys seen a candaian jail cell? it is nicer than most hotel rooms, they get tv, computer, internet its just redicoulous how is that supposed to be a deterent to commiting crime?
its like hey if you commit a crime they will give you this nice room, three hot meals a day, and guess what you dont have to pay for a thing the rest of society covers it
please tell me how that is supposed to detter people from commiting crime
give me a break
Originally posted by giZ
**do you ever look at the other side of things, serioulsy??I think it is sick. Yes what happened was terrible but what is still fucking happening is terrible. **
ok lets just let him tell us nothing and allow the terrorists to continue killing thousands:rolleyes:
look at the big picture, we cant allow thousands more to die just so that murder doesnt have to experience discomfort that he brought upon himself
Realy, Evolution. you do need to look at both sides of the problem. My views are going to be anit-war. but that who I am, I make no apologies. However. U.S. treats people from other countries like shit. Your 'big picture' is only the wester world. I don't know what your talking about with the jail cell. I have seen, and know people who have gone to jail. For starters, Its not like on T.V. your surounded by drugs. That not a myth, its a fact. there are more drugs in jail per person than on the streat. Not pot, crack, heroin etc. stuff thats going to :censored: you up. You are locked in a 6-8 cell most of the day, for the other part of the day your working for nothing.
If U.S. torturing him there are just as bad as the terrorists. So what, he has information? that means we can hurt him? what planet are you from? If we torture him, or kill him that makes him a martyer. Then there are going to be more people trying to hurt the western world.
I'll finish of with a quote.
"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them that they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for a lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.
Hermann Goering, Hitler's designated successor, before being setenced to death at the Nurember Trials.
"
look at homland security, then look at the quote.
Quote taken from 2600 magazine.
In all seriousness the torture the gov't would use would not be physical. It would be belittling and maybe uncomfortable but not what people consider torture. They would try to break him with drugs, tricks, mind games…(stay up for 72 hrs straight…your mind will start to let go of things)…
I say go for the torture…it doesn't really matter what people say anyways, the us is probably already doing it…they need the important information in order to win their war againt terror.
Dilligent you bring up a good point…by doing anything to him and/or the gov't we justify everything they say about the states being an evil empire…
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