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How much do you know about financial independence?

March 20, 2015, 9:28 p.m.
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hey, let's turn this into a thread about the genius of the smith maneuver. ya'll down with it right? everyone building wealth with ye old smith maneuver?

March 21, 2015, 7:13 a.m.
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It's $36500 maximum.

why is every thing else written as value then unit but when indicating dollars the unit goes in-front of the value?

March 21, 2015, 7:31 a.m.
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hey, let's turn this into a thread about the genius of the smith maneuver. ya'll down with it right? everyone building wealth with ye old smith maneuver?

Nope, I'm not comfortable with leverage, as it can be applied in both directions.

I follow the Heckler Maneuver (previously patented and implemented by the better half). Pay off the mortgage in 12 years and then start investing your payments aggressively. Granted, there is an amount of could have/should have, but no one started this thread for me in 2003, so I knew squat about FI. Luckily, my employers helped me squirrel away 10%, which also adds up!

March 21, 2015, 7:35 a.m.
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hey, let's turn this into a thread about the genius of the smith maneuver. ya'll down with it right? everyone building wealth with ye old smith maneuver?

I've been leveraging my home equity to buy assets. Not as aggressively as Smith M, as I have a debt threshold I want to stay below. It's been working great.

March 21, 2015, 7:48 a.m.
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why is every thing else written as value then unit but when indicating dollars the unit goes in-front of the value?

Wiki knows all, but I'm done googling for you. If this is your only question about FI, congratulations!, you must already be livin the dream.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_4217

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_sign

Mind you, english.stackexchange just has random theories about it.

http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/11326/what-is-the-difference-between-20-and-20

March 21, 2015, 7:56 a.m.
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why is every thing else written as value then unit but when indicating dollars the unit goes in-front of the value?

Not always this way in Quebec.

But it is strange, especially some cents symbol comes after, like 50c.

As for financial independence, is there such a thing as an investment vehicle with a guaranteed five percent rate of return? If large amount of capital is required, that's OK.

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March 21, 2015, 8:18 a.m.
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Over what time period?

March 21, 2015, 8:22 a.m.
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One year, 5 years, 10 years.

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- H.G. Wells

March 21, 2015, 8:29 a.m.
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%26P_500#Annual_returns

10 years + is easy.

March 21, 2015, 8:35 a.m.
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http://canadiancouchpotato.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/CCP-Model-Portfolios-Vanguard.pdf

http://canadiancouchpotato.com/model-portfolios-2/

March 21, 2015, 8:39 a.m.
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Mind you, that's not guaranteed and past results are not indicative of future results. Following a balanced diversified set of indices at low fees though is my best chance at success though.

March 21, 2015, 8:47 a.m.
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Thanks. I'll look more into Vanguard.

It is easy to dodge our responsibilities, but we cannot dodge the consequences of dodging our responsibilities.
- Josiah Stamp

Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race.
- H.G. Wells

March 21, 2015, 9:09 a.m.
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Start here to understand the basics first. Vanguard is just one of the available tools to implement the strategy.

http://canadiancouchpotato.com/couch-potato-faq/

http://canadiancouchpotato.com/2010/11/10/ready-willing-and-able-to-take-risk/

March 21, 2015, 5:54 p.m.
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Nope, I'm not comfortable with leverage, as it can be applied in both directions.

I follow the Heckler Maneuver (previously patented and implemented by the better half). Pay off the mortgage in 12 years and then start investing your payments aggressively. Granted, there is an amount of could have/should have, but no one started this thread for me in 2003, so I knew squat about FI. Luckily, my employers helped me squirrel away 10%, which also adds up!

hmmm, the Heckler Maneuver seems a lot more sound than the Smith Maneuver. you should write a book or go on forums with rabid SM acolytes and 'splain them the technique and wisdom of the HM… on the other hand nevermind. they've got themselves so twisted up in broken logic and bs that they can't see the forest for the trees and you can't convince them otherwise that's it's simply leveraged investing with the end being a lot of debt that you still pay (deductable or not) and a big question mark as to the value of your portfolio. ah well.

March 21, 2015, 6:38 p.m.
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Awe, shit….

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