Do North American construction vehicles still spew as much black smoke as that Chinese underwater monstrosity?
Not even close. We're on FT4 (stage3B) now. Even a tier 2 running properly won't smoke much.
Pastor of Muppets
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good to hear. you'd think beijing would figure it out, eh?
good to hear. you'd think beijing would figure it out, eh?
They're exempt. All mfgr's continue to produce pre-emissions engines for them.
Pretty happy we're breaking the bank to run clean,yet the most populous country in the world does fuck all. Same goes for India and Africa.
Pastor of Muppets
They're exempt.
only because Beijing exempts them, killing themselves slowly in the process.
only because Beijing exempts them, killing themselves slowly in the process.
Because their pollution stays there,right?
Pastor of Muppets
Realistically IT4 and FT4 arent' that incredible. The black smoke you're seeing is the particulate matter and Tier 2 took out the majority of it, with tier 3 mopping the rest up.
You can still buy Tier 3 on most deere machines, but cat and komatsu are forcing everyone to buy it4
Extra hours on the weekend.
We were cutting a new ski run yesterday and the conversation came up "Whats it cost to hire an FB for a couple of days? "
We were cutting a new ski run yesterday and the conversation came up "Whats it cost to hire an FB for a couple of days? "
I wonder who would know this info?
You folks are weird that way. The resources there,but no one wants to use it.
Pastor of Muppets
Well it would be more money than the hill just giving out some free day tickets and the chairs go round anyhow … there should be a new run this season
Pretty happy we're breaking the bank to run clean,yet the most populous country in the world does fuck all. Same goes for India and Africa.
Lol, keep telling yourself that.
Canada, one of the least populated developed countries on earth, is the number 10 worst polluter in the world. Per capita emissions are triple that of China's.
tilt bunchers are pretty sweet to run, id definitley be shitting myself if I ran one those machines anywhere near where the operators take them.
Ha Ha! Made you look.
Lol, keep telling yourself that.
Canada, one of the least populated developed countries on earth, is the number 10 worst polluter in the world. Per capita emissions are triple that of China's.
1-at least NA and Europe are doing something about it.
2-so we pollute a bunch extracting the resources….where do you suppose the lions share of it goes?and what happens to it when it gets there?
Did you know that you cannot even run a modern diesel engine in Chins because they refuse to remove the sulfur from the fuel,not to mention water and dirt?
Not saying our shit don't stink,but when the north American consumer has to shell out 4 to 20 grand more for an IT4 ot even more for a T4 machine…and the Chinese are still using 60's tech,everyone loses.
Pastor of Muppets
The only reasons canadas a terrible polluter is because of all the damn oil we produce.
Pretty happy we're breaking the bank to run clean,yet the most populous country in the world does fuck all. Same goes for India and Africa.
North America and Europe spewed out plenty of pollution during the 19th and 20th centuries, while Africa and India and China were spewing much much less. Now that they want to get the same economic benefits as the west they can only do so if they do it cleanly? Seems pretty hypocritical.
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