Guns

I got my PAL last summer with the full intention of getting my license before duck hunting started. License arrived in time but I got lazy, didn't buy a shotgun and here we are late Spring 2015.
I want to buy a shotgun but have no idea what I should be looking for. I'd also like to keep it under $1,000. Any recommendations?

Well here I am almost a year later and still no gun :cry:
Just looking at Cabela's and like both of these;
http://www.cabelas.ca/product/453/browning-bps-hunter-3-12-gauge-pump-action-shotgun
http://www.cabelas.ca/product/36658/weatherby-sa-08-deluxe-semi-auto-shotgun

Both are in my price range. Again I'm a noob.

Well here I am almost a year later and still no gun :cry:
Just looking at Cabela's and like both of these;
http://www.cabelas.ca/product/453/browning-bps-hunter-3-12-gauge-pump-action-shotgun
http://www.cabelas.ca/product/36658/weatherby-sa-08-deluxe-semi-auto-shotgun

Both are in my price range. Again I'm a noob.

Shotguns are all about fit. You ave to shoulder them and sight them, see what is comfortable for you. All of my shotguns sight different and some I like shooting more than others because of the fit. You have to keep in mind what you plan on doing with the shotgun. If you are only duck hunting, then a synthetic stock and longer barrel are benefits. If you are backpacking then a shorter barrel is a benefit. Personally, I prefer wood stocks but wouldn't shy away from a good synthetic stock, either.

The BPS is a good shotgun, especially if you are a lefty as it drops the shells out the bottom. Some say it is a little heavy, hard to sight - others love it. If you are looking at pump shotguns, I would also look at the Benelli SuperNova and perhaps the Winchester SXP. The SXP isn't that expensive, but lots of people that have them really like them - they shoulder quick and sight nice.

https://www.reliablegun.com/en/benelli-super-nova-pump-action-shotgun-12ga-3-12-28-vented-rib-blued-black-synthetic-comfortech-stock-4rds-red-bar-front-metal-mid-bead-sights-mobilchokes-icmf

https://www.reliablegun.com/en/browning-bps-hunter-pump-action-shotgun-12ga-3-28-vented-rib-polished-blued-polished-blued-steel-receiver-satin-grade-i-black-walnut-stock-4rds-silver-bead-front-sight-invector-plus-flush-fmic

https://www.reliablegun.com/en/winchester-sxp-campfield-combo-pump-action-shotgun-12ga-3-28-vented-rib-chrome-plated-chamber-bore-matte-matte-aluminum-alloy-receiver-black-composite-stock-5rds-brass-bead-front-sight-invector-plus-f

I personally like using a semi-auto as it reduces the recoil, especially on a 12g. With 20g recoil isn't really a concern for me and I quite like my little 16" over under 20g - it has put a lot of grouse on the table and I even bust clays with it sometimes. If you do plan on shooting trap at a range you should know that some ranges ave a minimum 26" barrel rule so that the old Fudds don't come against the fun little short barrels.

As for semi-auto 12g shotguns, the Weatherby SA-08 is the best bang for the buck out there. They were only $600 a few years ago but the dollar has really jumped them up. There are A LOT of opinions on what semi-auto is best; I prefer the old-school long recoil shotguns versus the newer gas block systems. Either way you go, make sure you get one that can shoot steel shot - as that is a legal requirement now for migratory fowl.

https://www.reliablegun.com/en/weatherby-sa-08-deluxe-gas-operated-semi-auto-shotgun-12ga-3-28-rich-high-llustre-high-gloss-select-grade-walnut-stock-5rds-brass-front-sight-fmic

Here's my new elk hunting rifle. Browning A-bolt in .338 win mag. Purchased at the gun show this weekend, so there is zero paperwork whatsoever on this. The seller didn't even ask my name.

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Here's my new elk hunting rifle. Browning A-bolt in .338 win mag. Purchased at the gun show this weekend, so there is zero paperwork whatsoever on this. The seller didn't even ask my name.

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Isn't the seller required to verify your a resident of the state you purchased that in?

Here's my new elk hunting rifle. Browning A-bolt in .338 win mag. Purchased at the gun show this weekend, so there is zero paperwork whatsoever on this. The seller didn't even ask my name.

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Love the .338 best all round BC rifle in my opinion.

Isn't the seller required to verify your a resident of the state you purchased that in?

Honestly couldn't tell you. I've seen a mixed bag at gun shows, from guys who have a registered that they record your name and phone number, others want to take a quick look at your ID, just to see that it is the from the right state, and others just take cash and shake your hand.

Oh, and of course dealers with a FFL, who are required to perform a background check.

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Here's my new elk hunting rifle. Browning A-bolt in .338 win mag. Purchased at the gun show this weekend, so there is zero paperwork whatsoever on this. The seller didn't even ask my name.

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Why the hell you need a canon like that fer a little 'ol elk? You walk around the woods with a string of cans tied to yer ankle or sumpin'?

Well here I am almost a year later and still no gun :cry:
Just looking at Cabela's and like both of these;
http://www.cabelas.ca/product/453/browning-bps-hunter-3-12-gauge-pump-action-shotgun
http://www.cabelas.ca/product/36658/weatherby-sa-08-deluxe-semi-auto-shotgun

Both are in my price range. Again I'm a noob.

Fuck man, just go to Reliable, save $$$$$$$$!

Anybody here compete in IPSC??

Anybody here compete in IPSC??

I'm going to try to this year. Production glass with my glock 17.

Just curious as its bigger back east. I got my black badge certified 1989 .. Yup I'm " older" was pretty young at the time . 38 super race guns were all the rage. I competed with my favorite auto cz75. Super accurate and reliable with my own reloads.

Just curious as its bigger back east. I got my black badge certified 1989 .. Yup I'm " older" was pretty young at the time . 38 super race guns were all the rage. I competed with my favorite auto cz75. Super accurate and reliable with my own reloads.

.38 super is still popular, and the cz75 Shadow dominates the production class.

If you ask me, it's WAY to difficult to get into the sport and it has become very bureaucratic.
I had to send my application to IPSC BC 3 times after they took my money just to get my certificate for reasons they wouldn't tell me. Took about 2 months from when I completed the course.

This is the list you need to go through to compete in IPSC.

Apply for PAL : 1 Week
PAL Course : $100 - 8 Hours
RPAL Course : $100 - 8 Hours
RCMP Approval/Issue Licence : $80 - 3-12 Months

Gun Range Membership : $200-$400 - 0-12 Months waiting period.
A.T.T. - 1-7 Days
Handgun, Holster, Magazines, Belt : $400+ (More likely $1000)

Study Black Badge Manual for test - 8 Hours
ISPC Black Badge Course - $265 - 0-30 Day Waiting Period - 16 Hour Course
Ammo For Course - $120
Receive Certificate - 1 Month

Now you still don't have your Black Badge.

Sign up for qualifier - $85 0-3 months

If you prove yourself/or decide you actually like the sport, you can apply for your Black Badge after all of the above and compete.

Just to try the sport:

Waiting Periods : 6 month from start to finish would be fast. More likely 8-12 months average.
Classroom time : 36 Hours
Cost : Around $2000 to pay all your fees, buy a gun, and get the ammo to take the black badge course with.

It was definitely easier when I did it. Plus I got my cz through lever arms Before the wall came down. Cz 's were only 250$ plus 25 per mag.

.38 super is still popular, and the cz75 Shadow dominates the production class.

If you ask me, it's WAY to difficult to get into the sport and it has become very bureaucratic.
I had to send my application to IPSC BC 3 times after they took my money just to get my certificate for reasons they wouldn't tell me. Took about 2 months from when I completed the course.

This is the list you need to go through to compete in IPSC.

Apply for PAL : 1 Week
PAL Course : $100 - 8 Hours
RPAL Course : $100 - 8 Hours
RCMP Approval/Issue Licence : $80 - 3-12 Months

Gun Range Membership : $200-$400 - 0-12 Months waiting period.
A.T.T. - 1-7 Days
Handgun, Holster, Magazines, Belt : $400+ (More likely $1000)

Study Black Badge Manual for test - 8 Hours
ISPC Black Badge Course - $265 - 0-30 Day Waiting Period - 16 Hour Course
Ammo For Course - $120
Receive Certificate - 1 Month

Now you still don't have your Black Badge.

Sign up for qualifier - $85 0-3 months

If you prove yourself/or decide you actually like the sport, you can apply for your Black Badge after all of the above and compete.

Just to try the sport:

Waiting Periods : 6 month from start to finish would be fast. More likely 8-12 months average.
Classroom time : 36 Hours
Cost : Around $2000 to pay all your fees, buy a gun, and get the ammo to take the black badge course with.

But once you've got your PAL you can buy a rifle and get shooting. Shooting IPSC is pretty rarified stuff IMO.