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GMC Canyon VS Toyota Tacoma.

Oct. 31, 2014, 10:51 p.m.
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Priced out a GMC Canyon today vs a toyota tacoma.

Some interesting facts.

The GMC SLT model (top) was 43,900. With no wiggle room, and 1.49 finance for 48 months.

Gmc has wayyyy more power driving around even with a smaller displacement engine
They claim better fuel mileage. (will have a test coming up)
Much more refined interior, (toyota still seems a bit utilitarian)
Better ride heigh stock
Also found the transmission to be far smoother (surprisingly)
Shitty gauges (pet peeve of mine) possibly from cavalier?

The Toyota Tacoma Limited was 41,500, and they'd probably move a bit. 1.99 for 48 months

While I dislike the seating position, The seats were far far more comfortable.
Fit and finish was better, materials used seemed a little higher quality.
More Man friendly, (electrical plug ins in the box)
Tech was lacking, This was also a complaint of mine while testing the tundra.
Both in touch screen that's included and in amount of usb's etc.

Personally, while I will admit toyota has done very little to improve the tacoma over the last few years I still have a hard time going and paying more a gm product that's as near make no difference Identically equipped.

I know lots of people on the boards have small trucks and I'm considering down sizing. Anyone have a 2014/15 tacoma?

Oct. 31, 2014, 11:38 p.m.
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Well I have a 2005 4 liter v5 Double Cab TRD.

it's just about tip on 290k km. 80k has been towing at near capacity.

I have treated this thing like a truck, 4x4'd all over New Brunswick and the Kootneys, moved across the country and taken to to Moab and back 6 times towing my trailer.

Repairs …. a hub bearing and toyota covered it under warranty. every other 1/4 ton is simply out classed by the Tacoma.

Buy a Tacoma.

Con: the stock mud flaps if you take it off road they break.

Nov. 1, 2014, 2:46 a.m.
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GT 40!


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Nov. 1, 2014, 3:57 a.m.
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tacoma for sure, like resnick said they're so tough. Plus the resale value is just insane

Nov. 1, 2014, 8:22 a.m.
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How is that cannyon even an option for you?

Ha Ha! Made you look.

Nov. 1, 2014, 8:41 a.m.
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You missed one key factor… the Tacoma had "Toyota" in the name. That's enough for me.

Okay, okay, okay…. resale value is a great point. The price from the dealer is largely based on cost to produce, resale value based on what the market thinks it is worth. Higher resale means that more people want to buy used Tacomas, buyers think it is a better truck. That should be end of story.

Nov. 1, 2014, 9:04 a.m.
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Is the new canyon available already?

Nov. 1, 2014, 9:14 a.m.
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i'd never buy a new truck off the lot , too much $$$ IMO , i would also never buy a 1st year model year of a completely new vehicle.

if i was i would go for the Toyota , hold their resale value very well and are very dependable , my Tacoma has over 340K on it and has more balls then my Dodge Dakota and is also quieter on the highway even with a offroad tread design .

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Nov. 1, 2014, 9:28 a.m.
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old man advise, take it or leave it. I bought two new cars 7 years ago, and kinda regret it. I'm working on financial independance now, and could use an extra $13K in the bank.

-a new $40K truck at 1.5% for 48 will cost you $46685 (interest, PST/GST, $500 pdi)
-a 2012 Canyon will cost you $27K (assuming you "need" 4x4), total cost $33927 (assuming 5% loan)

The $13K difference invested over the life of you truck becomes $16K in 5 years, and $25K in 15 years.

Or, you can smell new truck smell for 6 months for that $25K you lose out on.

Alternatively, think of the lift kit you could install for $13K! :drool:

Nov. 1, 2014, 9:46 a.m.
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buy used Tacoma and win?

I bought my Tacoma brand new and it will likely be the first and last new vehicle I buy. While it was nice being the first owner, paying full pop sucked. I would look at the used market first and see whats out there.

I don't have nearly the mileage resnick has, but I have been super happy with my 05 Tacoma. Had a warranty claim on the rims and a few TSB upgrades…other than that just typical wear.

Nov. 1, 2014, 9:47 a.m.
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although, I guess if one can write off the interest on a lease that could sway the buying new choice.

Nov. 1, 2014, 10:05 a.m.
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Nov. 1, 2014, 10:10 a.m.
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I'm considering down sizing.

why?

will the fuel savings really outweigh the payments?

This is downsizing.

Nov. 1, 2014, 10:14 a.m.
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No one is going to buy a machine from a guy driving a fucking mini

Ha Ha! Made you look.

Nov. 1, 2014, 10:26 a.m.
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old man advise, take it or leave it. I bought two new cars 7 years ago, and kinda regret it. I'm working on financial independance now, and could use an extra $13K in the bank.

-a new $40K truck at 1.5% for 48 will cost you $46685 (interest, PST/GST, $500 pdi)
-a 2012 Canyon will cost you $27K (assuming you "need" 4x4), total cost $33927 (assuming 5% loan)

The $13K difference invested over the life of you truck becomes $16K in 5 years, and $25K in 15 years.

Or, you can smell new truck smell for 6 months for that $25K you lose out on.

Alternatively, think of the lift kit you could install for $13K! :drool:

Yeah see this is a wonderful calculation you've put together. Unfortunately it has a few fatal flaws in my case.

For starters let's just leave tax out of the discussion for simlicity. And not pick on any brands, let's just simply talk numbers.

A new 40,000 dollar truck @ 1.5 for 48 months will cost me 41236. Which is 1236 in interest.

Your 2012 model @ 27000 @ let's take a conservative number of 6.25 for 36 months will cost me 29680. aka 2680 in interest.

Still a win right? 11,500 in change is huge! 28 or so percent?

If it's a 2012, I'll assume since were still in 2014 that it's only a 2 year old vehicle.

Given that the majority of trucks are owned by blue collar workers who likely commute I'll say on the conservative side of things it's drive 30-35k km per year. We'll come back to this.

My truck current has 155km on it. At 100,00 it was due for a major service ( both diffs, transmission, engine, plugs, wires, I had the batteries changed as one wasn't 100% and some belts. I think around 1500 dollars worth of work. It also was due for new rubber. 1600 dollars worth of nokians. At 135,000 km I did a front end on it. In most shops with would of been 2k or more. ( I have the quotes) In your equation you consider none of this. You just simply say it's used, and therefore it's cheaper.

I drive 50k per year. And I look at most trucks as a 200,000km "reliable" service life. Some trucks will run longer I will contest, but I'm paid to have a reliable good running truck. So if your truck has 70k on It would need to be ATLEAST 35% cheaper than new. That's without considering on a new truck I won't have to do any maintenance on the truck for well the first 100k. I mean I'm 70% of the way to spend 3500 or so on servicing/tires.

I'm failing to see how your two year old truck saves me a boat load of cash? All someone has done is depreciate it for me.

New truck, not that different of a payment, although it is a longer term, but for three years it'll be under warranty. I'm the original owner and know the history. I'm not trying to be a dick, but by my math, There's no way it's even half of the number you mentioned?

EDIT: you mentioned fuel. I don't care about fuel mileage at all.

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