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Aug. 6, 2014, 10:24 p.m.
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Oh come now. It's not a great parking job, but nothing close to seriously bad. And it's the last space in the line, so no other parking is lost.

When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity.

When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion.

Aug. 6, 2014, 10:33 p.m.
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Looks like a being a Telsa owner does not make you a good driver.

OMG! Really? :damn:

Aug. 6, 2014, 10:35 p.m.
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Looks like a being a Telsa owner does not make you a good driver. Shared from the Facebok group Dumbass parkers of Squmaish.

That's it. EVs have now been proven useless.

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Aug. 6, 2014, 10:40 p.m.
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No way I'd drive a car that is not secure…
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/21/chinese_uni_students_pop_tesla_model_s/

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Aug. 7, 2014, 12:06 a.m.
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OMG! Really? :damn:

Just being a troll. I figured it could have been KenN's car. OMG! :damn:

Aug. 7, 2014, 12:08 a.m.
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That's it. EVs have now been proven useless.

Come on now! I have an E-bike in china, works pretty good.

Aug. 7, 2014, 5:18 a.m.
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Just being a troll. I figured it could have been KenN's car. OMG! :damn:

5 bucks says it is.

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Aug. 7, 2014, 10:43 a.m.
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Not even the same colour as mine. So there!

When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity.

When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion.

Aug. 7, 2014, 10:51 a.m.
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I don't get it then why are Toyota and Honda getting into FCV then? I don't have enough knowledge to have an informed opinion on this, but one of the biggest car manufacturers (Toyota) surely knows something we don't?

KenN already answered that.

FCV's are like trying to fill up a bucket with a hose that delivers water at 1L/min but there is a hole in the bottom of the bucket that drains water at 1.5L/min.

what's the point?

We don't know what our limits are, so to start something with the idea of being limited actually ends up limiting us.
Ellen Langer

Aug. 7, 2014, 11:10 a.m.
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KenN already answered that.

FCV's are like trying to fill up a bucket with a hose that delivers water at 1L/min but there is a hole in the bottom of the bucket that drains water at 1.5L/min.

what's the point?

And you car is parked at the curb while your faucet is in the backyard, and you've only got a 20' hose and two buckets.

Aug. 7, 2014, 12:01 p.m.
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Pretty good read on FCVs in California:
http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/should-california-reconsider-its-policy-support-for-fuel-cell-vehicles

It is easy to dodge our responsibilities, but we cannot dodge the consequences of dodging our responsibilities.
- Josiah Stamp

Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race.
- H.G. Wells

Aug. 8, 2014, 12:37 p.m.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-XFarMF6gU

apparently it maxed out the dino.

Aug. 8, 2014, 2:59 p.m.
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No way I'd drive a car that is not secure…
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/21/chinese_uni_students_pop_tesla_model_s/

I don't really see how the car door could be opened remotely. "Unlocked", yes. Opened, no.

That said, how many auto manufacturers are paying hackers $10k to try finding security flaws so that they can fix them?

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/08/08/telsa-invites-hackers-for-a-spin/

LAS VEGAS — What is Elon Musk’s Tesla Motors doing at a hacker conference?

“It’s a super-car that’s connected to the Internet,” says Kristin Paget, who’s in charge of probing Tesla’s vehicles for security bugs. “Use your imagination.”

Tesla is one of the only household corporate names with an official presence this year at Def Con, an annual security conference held in Las Vegas, where attendees try to hack the hotel elevators and press room. The company is here courting hackers who can help it find holes in the software that controls its cars. It’s looking to hire 20 to 30 security researchers from Def Con alone, Ms. Paget says. Moreover, hackers who report bugs to Tesla get a platinum-colored “challenge coin.” If they show up at a Tesla factory and give the security team a heads-up, they get a free tour.

Tesla’s presence at Def Con points to a growing concern among automakers: As they connect vehicles to the Internet, bad guys could find a way in.

In one presentation this week, two researchers showed how some cars, such as Chrysler Group’s 2014 Jeep Cherokee, have Wi-Fi and Bluetooth communication systems on the same network as their brakes or automatic parallel parking programs. In theory, hackers could infiltrate a car’s communication system to control its physical maneuvers, said Charlie Miller, one of the researchers who has hacked cars in the past. Auto manufacturers reportedly are looking into Miller’s findings.

Standing in front of a sleek Model S, Paget, who hasn’t given a public interview since leaving Apple AAPL +0.28% for Tesla in February, declined to specify specific vulnerabilities. On its website, Tesla gives 20 people credit for finding security holes in either its vehicles or its website.

Paget, who goes by the title “hacker princess,” confirmed that the company has fixed at least one security flaw in its vehicles. (Since the cars have a wireless Internet connection, Tesla can update its cars over the air, like an iPhone.)

Asked whether the auto industry is prepared for the security risks that come with connected cars, Paget responded, “Hell no!”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2014/07/09/10000-is-on-offer-for-anyone-who-can-hack-a-tesla-car/

Security experts will be competing to hack a car for a $10,000 prize next week. It’s no ordinary car, though. It’s a Tesla Model S, the famous electric supercar brought to life by Elon Musk and his whizz-kid mechanics. And this might just be the first ever open competition to hack a car.

Anyone who registers for the SyScan conference taking place in Beijing from 16-17 July can enter the competition. The organizers told me there will be a Tesla and some computers on site, though they aren’t giving much away on the rules. They gave me some tantalizing examples of what they expect to see from the eventual winner though, including controlling a Tesla from a PC or making the in-dash browser inside the car visit specified websites, presumably to see whether malware infection could be possible in the vehicle.

Hint: Tesla is no longer the only internet connected car on the market.

When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity.

When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion.

Aug. 14, 2014, 2:49 p.m.
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http://uncrate.com/stuff/harley-davidson-livewire-electric-motorcycle/

Meet Harley Davidson's First Electric Motorcycle
http://www.popsci.com/article/cars/meet-harley-davidsons-first-electric-motorcycle?src=SOC[HTML_REMOVED]dom=gp

Aug. 14, 2014, 3:07 p.m.
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apparently it maxed out the dino.

Phht. Fred Flintstone did that thousands of years ago.

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