New posts

Electric Vehicle (EV) discussion thread

Dec. 24, 2021, 1:26 a.m.
Posts: 2345
Joined: April 2, 2005

Posted by: switch

The Mercedes EQS and the Lucid Air are impressive, but so is the price tag.  When is the Ferdinand Porsche of the EV age going to bring us an VW equivalent?

https://insideevs.com/news/527019/byd-dolphin-enters-market-china/

Dec. 24, 2021, 3:01 a.m.
Posts: 33786
Joined: Nov. 19, 2002

Does China make as car with a crash test rating above zero?

Dec. 24, 2021, 8:57 a.m.
Posts: 278
Joined: Feb. 24, 2017

Posted by: switch

The Mercedes EQS and the Lucid Air are impressive, but so is the price tag.  When is the Ferdinand Porsche of the EV age going to bring us an VW equivalent?

We need $25K EV's with moderate range way more than we need $150k EV's with huge range but as we know the world is broken...so we'll continue to see effort put into top end of the market.

Dec. 24, 2021, 9:41 a.m.
Posts: 2205
Joined: April 25, 2003

Posted by: switch

The Mercedes EQS and the Lucid Air are impressive, but so is the price tag.  When is the Ferdinand Porsche of the EV age going to bring us an VW equivalent?

Kia, Hyundai and Nissan make relatively affordable and basic electrics.

Dec. 24, 2021, 12:51 p.m.
Posts: 278
Joined: Feb. 24, 2017

Posted by: tashi

Posted by: switch

The Mercedes EQS and the Lucid Air are impressive, but so is the price tag.  When is the Ferdinand Porsche of the EV age going to bring us an VW equivalent?

Kia, Hyundai and Nissan make relatively affordable and basic electrics.

These are still 44K vs 25K for say a base Honda Civic.

Dec. 24, 2021, 5:08 p.m.
Posts: 2205
Joined: April 25, 2003

“Relatively”

Dec. 27, 2021, 11:36 a.m.
Posts: 3738
Joined: May 23, 2006

The turd king!

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2021/12/27/elon-musk-and-all-that-was-wrong-with-2021

Dec. 27, 2021, 4:08 p.m.
Posts: 2201
Joined: Nov. 23, 2002

Posted by: tashi

“Relatively”

Considering median family incomes in metro Van are around $65K, a $44K vehicle isn't really relatively affordable. I think that's one of the blind spots in our little mtb community here, just what qualifies as affordable.

Dec. 28, 2021, 8:02 a.m.
Posts: 2205
Joined: April 25, 2003

Correct, most people cannot afford ANY new car. 

Hence the word “relatively”. As in, Relative to other electric cars.

New cars are for rich people, particularly ones at the forefront of tech.

Dec. 29, 2021, 7:07 p.m.
Posts: 16769
Joined: Nov. 20, 2002

Posted by: switch

Does China make as car with a crash test rating above zero?

Pretty much anything in the BYD, NIO and Xpeng product lines is world class for safety, reliability and quality.

Jan. 14, 2022, 9:05 a.m.
Posts: 3768
Joined: Aug. 22, 2005

Saw an Ioniq 5 today. Not sure why I thought it would be the size of an e-Golf? It's giant.

Jan. 14, 2022, 10:45 a.m.
Posts: 1462
Joined: Feb. 17, 2009

Posted by: Madman

Saw an Ioniq 5 today. Not sure why I thought it would be the size of an e-Golf? It's giant.

That's promising, larger wheelbase than the Hyundai Palisade, their 7 seater SUV.

I am test driving one tomorrow, looking forward to it.

Jan. 14, 2022, 11:41 a.m.
Posts: 3738
Joined: May 23, 2006

There's a showroom I passed on north side of Georgia just past Howe what are those? Chinese or that Volvo electric?

I am test driving one tomorrow, looking forward to it.

Ask the guy what real world range is in teh winter.


 Last edited by: tungsten on Jan. 14, 2022, 11:42 a.m., edited 1 time in total.
Jan. 14, 2022, 12:18 p.m.
Posts: 3768
Joined: Aug. 22, 2005

Posted by: rnayel

Posted by: Madman

Saw an Ioniq 5 today. Not sure why I thought it would be the size of an e-Golf? It's giant.

That's promising, larger wheelbase than the Hyundai Palisade, their 7 seater SUV.

I am test driving one tomorrow, looking forward to it.

The Delta Integrale-esque styling had me assuming it was an EV hot hatch. It's a bit of an odd look scaled up!

Jan. 14, 2022, 2:16 p.m.
Posts: 1462
Joined: Feb. 17, 2009

Posted by: tungsten

There's a showroom I passed on north side of Georgia just past Howe what are those? Chinese or that Volvo electric?

I am test driving one tomorrow, looking forward to it.

Ask the guy what real world range is in the winter.

I imagine that it's no worse than a Tesla, Volvo, Audi or Porsche EV.

We want a electrified vehicle for our next car, our BMW X5 lease ends in September, so I'm ordering now to have something in hand at some point over the next 18 months. What I want is an F150 Lightning and I've been on the list since day 1, but it seems that if you don't have an existing relationship with a dealer, you're looking at 2024 at the earliest. If all fails, the PHEV Jeep Wrangler 4xe looks nice, is in stock and returns about 40-50km of electric range. My neighbour has the Rubicon 4xe and loves it.

Forum jump: