I heard that Saddam is winning the Iraq war. Any day now, the American troops will be destroyed.
When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity.
When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion.
I heard that Saddam is winning the Iraq war. Any day now, the American troops will be destroyed.
When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity.
When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion.
^^
Most children when caught with their hand in the cookie jar, will deny that they stole cookies.
Nah, come on. It would be in Russia's best interest right now to just come out and confirm that they elected a Manchurian Candidate before he's inaugurated. Seriously, what would they have to gain if no one actually investigate their ties?
It certainly wouldn't be in their best interest to oppose informing the body of electors, put in place to prevent foreign interests from installing a sympathetic candidate into the American government. That's just poppycock.
Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity
MEMORANDUM
Allegations of Hacking Election Are Baseless
A New York Times report on Monday alluding to overwhelming circumstantial evidence leading the CIA to believe that Russian President Vladimir Putin deployed computer hackers with the goal of tipping the election to Donald J. Trump is, sadly, evidence-free. This is no surprise, because harder evidence of a technical nature points to an inside leak, not hacking by Russians or anyone else.
Mondays Washington Post reports that Sen. James Lankford, R-Oklahoma, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, has joined other senators in calling for a bipartisan investigation of suspected cyber-intrusion by Russia. Reading our short memo could save the Senate from endemic partisanship, expense and unnecessary delay.
In what follows, we draw on decades of senior-level experience with emphasis on cyber-intelligence and security to cut through uninformed, largely partisan fog. Far from hiding behind anonymity, we are proud to speak out with the hope of gaining an audience appropriate to what we merit given our long labors in government and other areas of technology. And corny though it may sound these days, our ethos as intelligence professionals remains, simply, to tell it like it is without fear or favor.
We have gone through the various claims about hacking. For us, it is childs play to dismiss them. The email disclosures in question are the result of a leak, not a hack. Heres the difference between leaking and hacking:
Leak: When someone physically takes data out of an organization and gives it to some other person or organization, as Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning did.
Hack: When someone in a remote location electronically penetrates operating systems, firewalls or any other cyber-protection system and then extracts data.
All signs point to leaking, not hacking. If hacking were involved, the National Security Agency would know it and know both sender and recipient.
In short, since leaking requires physically removing data on a thumb drive, for example the only way such data can be copied and removed, with no electronic trace of what has left the server, is via a physical storage device.
Awesome Technical Capabilities
Again, NSA is able to identify both the sender and recipient when hacking is involved. Thanks largely to the material released by Edward Snowden, we can provide a full picture of NSAs extensive domestic data-collection network including Upstream programs like Fairview, Stormbrew and Blarney. These include at least 30 companies in the U.S. operating the fiber networks that carry the Public Switched Telephone Network as well as the World Wide Web. This gives NSA unparalleled access to data flowing within the U.S. and data going out to the rest of the world, as well as data transiting the U.S.
In other words, any data that is passed from the servers of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) or of Hillary Rodham Clinton (HRC) or any other server in the U.S. is collected by the NSA. These data transfers carry destination addresses in what are called packets, which enable the transfer to be traced and followed through the network.
Packets: Emails being passed across the World Wide Web are broken down into smaller segments called packets. These packets are passed into the network to be delivered to a recipient. This means the packets need to be reassembled at the receiving end.
To accomplish this, all the packets that form a message are assigned an identifying number that enables the receiving end to collect them for reassembly. Moreover, each packet carries the originator and ultimate receiver Internet protocol number (either IPV4 or IPV6) that enables the network to route data.
When email packets leave the U.S., the other Five Eyes countries (the U.K., Canada, Australia, and New Zealand) and the seven or eight additional countries participating with the U.S. in bulk-collection of everything on the planet would also have a record of where those email packets went after leaving the U.S.
These collection resources are extensive [see attached NSA slides 1, 2, 3, 4, 5]; they include hundreds of trace route programs that trace the path of packets going across the network and tens of thousands of hardware and software implants in switches and servers that manage the network. Any emails being extracted from one server going to another would be, at least in part, recognizable and traceable by all these resources.
The bottom line is that the NSA would know where and how any hacked emails from the DNC, HRC or any other servers were routed through the network. This process can sometimes require a closer look into the routing to sort out intermediate clients, but in the end sender and recipient can be traced across the network.
The various ways in which usually anonymous spokespeople for U.S. intelligence agencies are equivocating saying things like our best guess or our opinion or our estimate etc. shows that the emails alleged to have been hacked cannot be traced across the network. Given NSAs extensive trace capability, we conclude that DNC and HRC servers alleged to have been hacked were, in fact, not hacked.
The evidence that should be there is absent; otherwise, it would surely be brought forward, since this could be done without any danger to sources and methods. Thus, we conclude that the emails were leaked by an insider as was the case with Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning. Such an insider could be anyone in a government department or agency with access to NSA databases, or perhaps someone within the DNC.
As for the comments to the media as to what the CIA believes, the reality is that CIA is almost totally dependent on NSA for ground truth in the communications arena. Thus, it remains something of a mystery why the media is being fed strange stories about hacking that have no basis in fact. In sum, given what we know of NSAs existing capabilities, it beggars belief that NSA would be unable to identify anyone Russian or not attempting to interfere in a U.S. election by hacking.
For the Steering Group, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS)
William Binney, former Technical Director, World Geopolitical [HTML_REMOVED] Military Analysis, NSA; co-founder, SIGINT Automation Research Center (ret.)
Mike Gravel, former Adjutant, top secret control officer, Communications Intelligence Service; special agent of the Counter Intelligence Corps and former United States Senator
Larry Johnson, former CIA Intelligence Officer [HTML_REMOVED] former State Department Counter-Terrorism Official
Ray McGovern, former US Army infantry/intelligence officer [HTML_REMOVED] CIA analyst (ret.)
Elizabeth Murray, Deputy National Intelligence Officer for Middle East, CIA (ret.)
Kirk Wiebe, former Senior Analyst, SIGINT Automation Research Center, NSA (ret.)
https://consortiumnews.com/2016/12/12/us-intel-vets-dispute-russia-hacking-claims/
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"Veterans Intelligence Professionals for Sanity" have massive worldwide cred. Just like my "Fourtysomethings for World Peace, OK?" organization. When we sign it, we define it.
"Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity" have massive worldwide cred.
fyp
Top U.S. spy agency has not embraced CIA assessment on Russia hacking
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"Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity" have massive worldwide cred.
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Top U.S. spy agency has not embraced CIA assessment on Russia hacking
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Worth a watch for those interested in postmortems.
I watched it yesterday. Some pretty good points and insight.
One thing that the people there seem to miss is that economies change and that the industry in their area will likely never return. This is an important point, because they are very resistant to change, probably because they have a deep fear of change.
This fear is debilitating to the point that they are stagnant. With the fear that's constantly injected into their culture (Mexicans storming the border, ISIS at every public event, etc.), I don't believe they are able to rationally deal with what they are facing.
This is why you hear so many Trump supporters not understanding the issues, or believing the rhetoric and false information. They are grasping for anything that might relieve their insecurity, regardless if it's a lie or not. You can see it in that one woman who talks about pricing going to 6000% in a few years (or something like that). The problems they have are always somebody elses fault (dey terk our jobs!).
I hope they get it together and learn to adopt change and responsibility.
It is easy to dodge our responsibilities, but we cannot dodge the consequences of dodging our responsibilities.
- Josiah Stamp
Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race.
- H.G. Wells
fyp
Top U.S. spy agency has not embraced CIA assessment on Russia hacking
From the article
"ODNI is not arguing that the agency (CIA) is wrong, only that they can't prove intent," said one of the three U.S. officials. "Of course they can't, absent agents in on the decision-making in Moscow."
I hope they get it together and learn to adopt change and responsibility.
It would be amazing if Trump and Hillary supporters got it together.
From the article
"ODNI is not arguing that the agency (CIA) is wrong, only that they can't prove intent," said one of the three U.S. officials. "Of course they can't, absent agents in on the decision-making in Moscow."
Pffft. Tungsten doesn't need to actually read the articles. The headline says it all bruh. :lol:
well it's a done deal now - trump won the electoral college vote today handily. in a bit of irony, while he did lose a couple of votes in the process, clinton actually lost four.
We don't know what our limits are, so to start something with the idea of being limited actually ends up limiting us.
Ellen Langer
well it's a done deal now - trump won the electoral college vote today handily. in a bit of irony, while he did lose a couple of votes in the process, clinton actually lost four.
Good. I really think Trump will be a disaster, but if the EC starts going rogue that would be a much larger pile of shit hitting a much more powerful fan.
Pffft. Tungsten doesn't need to actually read the articles. The headline says it all bruh. :lol:
Nuance eludes you.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l_f_Q-MflU
President Barack Obama
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500November 29, 2016
Dear President Obama,
We are writing to express our grave concern regarding the mental stability of our President-Elect. Professional standards do not permit us to venture a diagnosis for a public figure whom we have not evaluated personally. Nevertheless, his widely reported symptoms of mental instability [HTML_REMOVED]#8212; including grandiosity, impulsivity, hypersensitivity to slights or criticism, and an apparent inability to distinguish between fantasy and reality [HTML_REMOVED]#8212; lead us to question his fitness for the immense responsibilities of the office. We strongly recommend that, in preparation for assuming these responsibilities, he receive a full medical and neuropsychiatric evaluation by an impartial team of investigators.
Sincerely,
Judith Herman, M.D.
Professor of Psychiatry
Harvard Medical SchoolNanette Gartrell, M.D.
Associate Clinical Professor of Psychiatry
University of California, San Francisco (1988-2011)
Assistant Professor of Psychiatry, Harvard Medical School (1983-87)Dee Mosbacher, M.D., Ph.D.
Assistant Clinical Professor
Department of Community Health Systems
University of California, San Francisco (2005-2013)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-greene/is-donald-trump-mentally_b_13693174.html
In the New Yorker…. DONALD TRUMP[HTML_REMOVED]#8217;S GHOSTWRITER TELLS ALL
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