So the latest John Oliver clip on Trump that came out a few days ago is nowhere to be found… anybody know what's up with that? I'm curious what people can and can't get away with when speaking of the Donald.
It can be streamed from here
https://fmovies.se/film/last-week-tonight-with-john-oliver-4.ll003/705177
Je suis Ikea.
This is a perfect of example of what's gone wrong. The media is screaming that Trump said or suggest there was a terrorist attack in Sweden, but if you listen to the clip he does not mention the word attack at all. There is no integrity anymore, no honesty or accuracy in reporting. It's bad enough that sometimes one can't even question the veracity of some of the claims without getting labeled a racist or whatever. Objectivity is completely gone.
We don't know what our limits are, so to start something with the idea of being limited actually ends up limiting us.
Ellen Langer
If Trump wouldn't lie so much - if he would be as articulate as a 7th grader - then perhaps there wouldn't be reports of "wtf did he just say"?
He said "look at what happened last night in Sweden", and nothing has happened. He then backsteps and says he's referring to something he heard on Fox News.
So he says the media is all fake news, then he references something he heard on a media outlet. :rolleyes:
The guy has a massive organization around him that provides all kinds of facts, but he ignores it and makes things up. The man has comprehension issues. Add that to an incredibly big ego, a narcissistic personality, and comprehension issues and you get a constant stream of absurd and non-factual stream of comments from him just to suit his narrative.
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This is a perfect of example of what's gone wrong. The media is screaming that Trump said or suggest there was a terrorist attack in Sweden, but if you listen to the clip he does not mention the word attack at all. There is no integrity anymore, no honesty or accuracy in reporting. It's bad enough that sometimes one can't even question the veracity of some of the claims without getting labeled a racist or whatever. Objectivity is completely gone.
then tell me, what exactly "happend [that] night in sweden"?
then tell me, what exactly "happend [that] night in sweden"?
that's the whole point - do you know exactly what happened? does the media who reported or insinuated that a terrorist attack happened know? no. what the media (especially "social media") did was take an ambiguous statement and spin it to suit their narrative of what they think trump said.
We don't know what our limits are, so to start something with the idea of being limited actually ends up limiting us.
Ellen Langer
If Trump wouldn't lie so much - if he would be as articulate as a 7th grader - then perhaps there wouldn't be reports of "wtf did he just say"?
He said "look at what happened last night in Sweden", and nothing has happened. He then backsteps and says he's referring to something he heard on Fox News.
So he says the media is all fake news, then he references something he heard on a media outlet. :rolleyes:
The guy has a massive organization around him that provides all kinds of facts, but he ignores it and makes things up. The man has comprehension issues. Add that to an incredibly big ego, a narcissistic personality, and comprehension issues and you get a constant stream of absurd and non-factual stream of comments from him just to suit his narrative.
i'll take fallacies for $200 Alex.
take your pick but there are about 3 or 4 that could apply. in essence though, just because trump is jumping off a cliff it doesn't mean you (or the media) should either.
this link from the new yorker that Mic posted a page or so back
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/02/27/why-facts-dont-change-our-minds
details exactly what's going on these days, namely a huge shit storm of confirmation bias that is clouding people's ability to separate fact from fiction. the instantaneous buy in on any anti-trump spin is de-legitimize the rational arguments against him.
We don't know what our limits are, so to start something with the idea of being limited actually ends up limiting us.
Ellen Langer
This is a perfect of example of what's gone wrong. The media is screaming that Trump said or suggest there was a terrorist attack in Sweden, but if you listen to the clip he does not mention the word attack at all. There is no integrity anymore, no honesty or accuracy in reporting. It's bad enough that sometimes one can't even question the veracity of some of the claims without getting labeled a racist or whatever. Objectivity is completely gone.
funny you should say that…http://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/news-journalism-standards-regulation-neil-macdonald-1.3991443
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yea that vid almost supports the don. by the end of watching it i was like…maybe i have it all wrong.
I can only hope Trump can use the strong leadership skills he displayed in "The Aprrentice" and "The Celebrity Apprentice" to clean up the MESS he inherited and #MAGA.
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/832945737625387008
God bless him!
Trump is a walking, talking, tweeting contradiction.
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/832197515248275456
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/832230758299340800
His "drain the swamp" slogan is turning out to be "drain the swamp; after I first fill it with former Goldman-Sach execs and the like"
How long has "Atomic Football Roger" been the nuke carrying cat? Took less than a month of Trumpism for that info to come out in public.
His lil spat with Mark Cuban the other day was cute. Divert to that while N.Korea tests missiles.
We should all follow Kelly's advice.
https://www.google.com/amp/thedailybanter.com/.amp/2017/01/conway-says-media-should-ignore-trumps-words/
No need to make things up when Trump is perfectly capable of doing that on his own.
Why slag free swag?:rolleyes:
ummm, as your doctor i recommend against riding with a scaphoid fracture.
People here just live to hate - there's the root of the social issue. I bet most voted for JT as well - the budget balancing by itself yet? lol.
syncro is on the right track.
since you are also here … doesnt that include you?
People here just live to hate - there's the root of the social issue. I bet most voted for JT as well - the budget balancing by itself yet? lol.
syncro is on the right track.
:lol: This is almost something I would expect the Donald himself to say if he was in NBR. Sweet channeling of Agent Orange Zed.
It starts with the classic delivery of a vague insulting statement which is impossible to claim as fact or fiction (We all live to hate? Hate who? Hate what? What happened in Sweden? What are we talking about?). Then you proceed to make another bolder, more important claim that is linked to the previous unprovable vague statement,(this is "the root of the social issue".. hmm, sounds deep, I guess it must be true… I would argue, but I still haven't figured out who I hate or what "the social issue" is). Then a pivot, which I suppose is intended to tie up in a neat bow our propensity for hate which is the root of the social issue, with who we voted for in the last election. Holy shit, it's been all my fault all along?
It may come as a surprise to you but I don't hate anyone, I just call em as I see em, and I have been calling Trump a moron with zero ability to lead, but with a knack for manipulation (read "Con Man") for quite some time and this is playing out in real time.
So shit or get off the pot Zed. What do you think of statements that Trump makes that are obvious lies? You can say we live to hate, but you don't seem to have the balls to voice your opinion on Trump's abilities as a leader.
What were experiencing throughout the West at present is a neo-nationalist insurrection against Globalism. An insurrection because global Capitalism is a global-hegemonic system. It has no viable external enemies. People, unhappy with how Capitalism has been restructuring their lives since the end of the Cold War, and aware that power has been gradually shifting from sovereign nations to supranational entities, multinational corporations, international institutions, and so on, are reaching for the only alternative on offer, Neo-nationalism, in one form or another. Which is what the Trumpians and the Brexit gang are promising, a halt of the spread of global Capitalism and the restoration of national sovereignty.
The neoliberal ruling classes, naturally, would like to prevent this from happening. Which, make no mistake, they are going to do (although they may let Trump, Bannon, et al. go ahead and have their War on Islam to finish destabilizing the Middle East first). What is being marketed to us as the resistance to Trump, technically, is a counter-insurgency operation the global neoliberal establishment quashing the neo-nationalist uprising. But that kind of thing doesnt sell very well. What sells much better is Hitler hysteria, neo-McCarthyite propaganda, and emotionally loaded trigger words that short circuit any kind of critical thinking, words like love, hate, racism, fascism, normal, and of course resistance.
The irony is, the actual resistance (if the word resistance still has any meaning) is the one being waged by the neo-nationalists, who are in fact resisting something, namely Neoliberalism, which is clearly the dominant force in this equation. This doesnt make them any more righteous, unless youre in favor of racism, sexism, theocracy, and other such despotic values. Resistance is not a virtue in itself. Its virtue depends on who is doing the resisting, and what theyre resisting, and on various other sociopolitical and historical factors that wont fit into a tweet or a sound bite.
In any event, the quandary folks on the Left are currently facing is twofold: (1) how to oppose the Trumpians, and other neo-nationalist insurgencies, without serving the interests of Neoliberalism; and (2) how to oppose Neoliberalism without serving the interests of the Neo-nationalists. Which is more or less a classic Zen koan designed to make ones head explode.
https://consentfactory.org/2017/01/31/the-resistance-and-its-double/
Freedom of contract. We sell them guns that kill them; they sell us drugs that kill us.
Are people just incapable of writing anything these days that doesn't rely on "hyphenated" made up words to describe that which they detest??
The Trump Administration plans to cut funding for several popular domestic programs, such as PBS and the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA). Both programs make up less than 0.0625% of the Federal budget. Meanwhile, the cost of facilitating the Trump familyâs lifestyle could cost taxpayers some $300 million more annually than the previous first family, a Reverb Press investigation concludes.
Estimated cost if Trump continues to visit Mar-a-Lago every weekend: $120 million. Estimated cost of Trump Tower security: $183 million.At issue are President Trumpâs frequent trips to his Mar-a-Lago clubhouse in Florida, which have already cost taxpayers $10 million, and the First Ladyâs decision to live at the coupleâs Trump Tower penthouseâthe security for which will cost taxpayers an estimated $183 million per year. Some Trump aides have reportedly encouraged the Commander in Chief to spend less time at his âWinter White Houseâ and visit Camp David. The presidential retreat is a short helicopter ride from the White House. But multiple reports indicate Trump is happiest when hobnobbing with guests at his glitzy Palm Beach getaway.
If President Trump continues to visit Mar-a-Lago three times a month for the next twelve months, heâll rack up a security bill of roughly $120 million.
At their highest, estimates put the cost of protecting Trump Tower at twice the NEAâs total proposed budget for 2017. If First Lady Melania Trump continues to reside at the penthouse, it will cost taxpayers some $183 million per year.
That adds up to an extra $303 million per yearânot including security costs for protecting family members other than the President and First Lady. His sonsâ business trips, for example, would add another $1.3 million to the figure.
For comparison, PBSâs proposed budget for 2016 was $341.7 million, while the NEAâs proposed budget for 2017 is just $149.849 million. President Obamaâs travel expenses cost taxpayers roughly $12 million a year, according to the conservative group Judicial Watch.
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