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Do you support or agree with the nationwide Protests?

Feb. 21, 2020, 10:29 a.m.
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seems like a nice company.  i wonder if they are involved in our blockade messes?  

https://www.demandprotest.com/

Feb. 21, 2020, 10:58 a.m.
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wow I checked to make sure it ^^ wasn't a satire site like Walking eagle or the Beaverton

Feb. 21, 2020, 12:32 p.m.
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Posted by: XXX_er

they didnt thro up a fence around those 22,000 kms of land, I been behind the unistolten blockade doing forestry research by mtn bike we asked and they let us in, there is one bridge but you could get in if you had  a boat and thats how the land defender got back in, -32 that week pretty cold for a camp out 

but Delgamuukw and Tsilcotin decisions say the Wetsueten do have a say in what goes on because they never gave up their lands, read the Royal proclaimation of 1763 which was designed to run Canada after the english took it from the french

But you ARE just a settler, and your nation is was trying to steal it ... again

I have read the decisions and I think that has set us up for generations of conflict.  You can say I am just a settler, but that is clearly not the case.  The simple fact is that Canada exists and the First Nation's only power to fight for land rights is within the Canadian court system, so theoretically the land was never surrendered, but as long as Canadian law rules it is hard to make the case that those lands are not part of Canada.

So how do you see this ending?  What would be a fair conclusion to land disputes in your opinion?  I feel that the best we can do is makes deals over ownership of the land, but at the end of all this, we will all be Canadians.

Feb. 21, 2020, 12:36 p.m.
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Well, buckle up and hold on as it seems we’re headed for a shit show. Just listened to Trudeau’s statement and unless the barricades come down voluntarily it looks like government forces of some kind will move in and take them down.

Feb. 21, 2020, 1:24 p.m.
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It was inevitable.  Here we go again.

Feb. 21, 2020, 1:45 p.m.
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Posted by: FLATCH

Don’t forget your One Call Marcus.

Call before you dig?

Feb. 21, 2020, 1:52 p.m.
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Posted by: FLATCH

Posted by: KenN

Posted by: FLATCH

If it were up to this moderate liberal I would have given them 24 hours notice and brought in the military.

Certainly, if starting a civil war is your goal, then that's the way to do it.

So we should just sit on our hands?  And can you tell me why so many of them cover their faces. If so sincere I would want you to see my face.

How fucked up is this:

At the Broadway Cambie protest 2+ weeks ago, I had to walk away from some Tonto because he went from saying I'm "spiritually balding", which myself and the VPD close by thought was funny and we grinned/laughed to "thats why we stopped scalping you". Not so funny.

Now, I'm not sure about anyone of you but I had some questions. Such as 'has he ever scalped someone' or 'can you properly scalp someone with shaved head' or 'lets breathalyze this day drunk dumbass and get him off the street'.

After that I was going to ask the many VPD officers standing around how citizens arrests worked and if I could borrow some hand cuffs.

Feb. 21, 2020, 2:04 p.m.
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Scalping was a practice imported by the European settlers in the Connecticut and Massachusetts colonies, as a way account for paying bounties for killing natives.

Feb. 21, 2020, 2:08 p.m.
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for real ^^ this happened?  man that's ugly.

Feb. 21, 2020, 2:18 p.m.
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Posted by: JBV

for real ^^ this happened?  man that's ugly.

All part of the revisionist history courtesy movies and tv that Indigenous people did the scalping.

Feb. 21, 2020, 2:21 p.m.
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Posted by: KenN

Scalping was a practice imported by the European settlers in the Connecticut and Massachusetts colonies, as a way account for paying bounties for killing natives.

Cartier was shown several scalps by natives in what is now Quebec though, so I am not so sure that it wasn't an existing practice within some of the first nations.

Feb. 21, 2020, 2:42 p.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

Posted by: ReductiMat

I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice and that when they fail in this purpose they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress. I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that the present tension in the South is a necessary phase of the transition from an obnoxious negative peace, in which the Negro passively accepted his unjust plight, to a substantive and positive peace, in which all men will respect the dignity and worth of human personality. Actually, we who engage in nonviolent direct action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive. We bring it out in the open, where it can be seen and dealt with. Like a boil that can never be cured so long as it is covered up but must be opened with all its ugliness to the natural medicines of air and light, injustice must be exposed, with all the tension its exposure creates, to the light of human conscience and the air of national opinion before it can be cured.

If you're going to quote Dr. King please have the decency to attribute his words to him. And during black history month! You should be ashamed of yourself. Now go stand in the corner.

If Putin was doing this, would you be ok with it?

Go d/t and punch a native person in the face. I dare you.

He stole it from me while I was living in Crimea.

Feb. 21, 2020, 2:59 p.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: KenN

Scalping was a practice imported by the European settlers in the Connecticut and Massachusetts colonies, as a way account for paying bounties for killing natives.

Cartier was shown several scalps by natives in what is now Quebec though, so I am not so sure that it wasn't an existing practice within some of the first nations.

There is apparently some evidence that some warring FN tribes practised it long ago (like 1300s) as a trophy of battle, but a bit more spotty about whether it was carried out much later than that. But there is solid evidence of a separate historical record of paying bounties for scalps within the settler communities.


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Feb. 21, 2020, 6:53 p.m.
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Posted by: ReductiMat

Posted by: tungsten

Posted by: ReductiMat

I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice and that when they fail in this purpose they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress. I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that the present tension in the South is a necessary phase of the transition from an obnoxious negative peace, in which the Negro passively accepted his unjust plight, to a substantive and positive peace, in which all men will respect the dignity and worth of human personality. Actually, we who engage in nonviolent direct action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive. We bring it out in the open, where it can be seen and dealt with. Like a boil that can never be cured so long as it is covered up but must be opened with all its ugliness to the natural medicines of air and light, injustice must be exposed, with all the tension its exposure creates, to the light of human conscience and the air of national opinion before it can be cured.

If you're going to quote Dr. King please have the decency to attribute his words to him. And during black history month! You should be ashamed of yourself. Now go stand in the corner.

If Putin was doing this, would you be ok with it?

Go d/t and punch a native person in the face. I dare you.

He stole it from me while I was living in Crimea.

You're lucky if your nazi friends had discovered it on you they would have necklaced you!

Now go stand in the corner and this time face the wall.

Feb. 21, 2020, 7:05 p.m.
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Posted by: KenN

Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: KenN

Scalping was a practice imported by the European settlers in the Connecticut and Massachusetts colonies, as a way account for paying bounties for killing natives.

Cartier was shown several scalps by natives in what is now Quebec though, so I am not so sure that it wasn't an existing practice within some of the first nations.

There is apparently some evidence that some warring FN tribes practised it long ago (like 1300s) as a trophy of battle, but a bit more spotty about whether it was carried out much later than that. But there is solid evidence of a separate historical record of paying bounties for scalps within the settler communities.

Don't worry, there's always "pegging"!

Robertson’s first experience with treating a scalping victim was in 1777. The patient was scalped so “nearly the whole of his head skinned.” Dr. Vance was treating the man but could not remain for a prolonged period of time so instructed Robertson in the art of skull boring. Vance demonstrated how to bore holes as the skull became black. Robertson described the method, “I have found that a flat pointed straight awl is the best instrument to bore with, as the skull is thick, and somewhat difficult to penetrate. When the awl is nearly through, this instrument should be borne more lightly upon. The time to quit boring is when a reddish fluid appears on the point of the awl. I bore, at first, about one inch apart, and, as the flesh appears to rise in those holes, I bore a number more between the first.”[9] Besides boring holes in the skull the wound had to be cleaned and dressed at least once a day to prevent infection. The patient recovered from the scalping.

Apparently, the success rate for this treatment was very good. The scalped head, according to Robertson, “cures very slowly” and the average recovery period was two years. Remarkably, Robertson reported that hair would even grow back, although not as thickly, on the new scalp. The patient would regain feeling once the new skin grew sufficiently to attach to the edge of the uninjured part of the original flesh remaining on the skull.

This method of boring, or pegging, used during the colonial period continues to be practiced today.

https://allthingsliberty.com/2013/05/how-to-treat-a-scalped-head/


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