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do you have daughters?

Feb. 3, 2020, 4:15 p.m.
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i watched a bit of the superbowl yesterday in between other things. out of casual interest in the spectacle and the prurient interest in scantily clad women i watched the half time show. i picture millions of people of every socio economic rung watching this with their friends and families. i'm thinking of all the young women and girls watching and i can't help but wonder what the message is here to women.  

you're a body to be objectified, wag your ass around and grab at your crotch a lot? make sure you grow up to be as sexual as possible?  i'm not a father, but i find the general image of women in the American media, especially the pop media like this, to be brutal. and i'm not saying it's a male created problem, i have no idea the root of it (oh wait, money, that's it), but i would be pissed if this was the mainstream image my daughters were absorbing from the media.  what's your take, daddy o?

Feb. 3, 2020, 4:32 p.m.
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I was hoping for a wardrobe malfunction myslelf. I dont really understand the americans puritans.. softcore porn and military worship and violence is AOK but how dare you show the devils nipples.

Feb. 3, 2020, 4:33 p.m.
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Just about every show on TV these days objectifies women in some way, men too. I just started watching Quantico on Nextflix and it's sad how the recruits all wear crew neck t-shirts during their training exercises, yet the star (female) always has a v-neck t-shirt on to show off her cleavage or has a crew neck button up shirt that's unbuttoned. Young girls are hyper sexualized these days, it's the Brittney effect. When you start to critically examine how men and women are portrayed in the media, and then social media, it's easy to see how we are presented with unrealistic expectations of what women and men are supposed to look like.


 Last edited by: syncro on Feb. 3, 2020, 4:43 p.m., edited 1 time in total.
Feb. 3, 2020, 4:34 p.m.
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twerking, baby!

Feb. 3, 2020, 4:39 p.m.
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Feb. 3, 2020, 5:53 p.m.
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Haven't had cable for a decade, sounds like I'm not missing much.

Feb. 3, 2020, 6:20 p.m.
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Posted by: Madman

Haven't had cable for a decade, sounds like I'm not missing much.

this

Feb. 4, 2020, 1 a.m.
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Yeah, nope. My daughter doesn't need to be watching women objectify themselves for popularity.

A lot of good content and positive role models out there, no need to put this low brow stripper pole crap into girls minds at all.


 Last edited by: Hepcat on Feb. 4, 2020, 1:09 a.m., edited 1 time in total.
Feb. 4, 2020, 1:57 a.m.
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They put themselves out there like that, then get mad when men look at them "that way".

Feb. 4, 2020, 10:31 a.m.
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I do have a 7-year-old daughter and I don't have cable.  Win-win.  Not that J-Lo and Shakira aren't all over the internet anyway but at least it is not on my living room TV.  It is really strange to me how hyper-sexualization is not just allowed but encouraged yet not nudity.  I don't care if my daughter sees naked people.... J-Lo pole dancing on the other hand.

Feb. 4, 2020, 12:19 p.m.
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Two daughters here. Fill their heads with knowledge and confidence so they are in a position to determine if they should pole-dance or not.

Shielding them from things puritans hate is a really bad idea.


 Last edited by: ReductiMat on Feb. 4, 2020, 12:19 p.m., edited 1 time in total.
Feb. 4, 2020, 12:58 p.m.
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2 year-old here, 2 week old boy.

What ReductiMat said. You can’t shield em, you can’t control em, so train them to make good decisions and have confidence in themselves.

That’s the plan anyway.


 Last edited by: tashi on Feb. 4, 2020, 1:01 p.m., edited 1 time in total.
Feb. 4, 2020, 1:02 p.m.
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Posted by: ReductiMat

Two daughters here. Fill their heads with knowledge and confidence so they are in a position to determine if they should pole-dance or not.

Shielding them from things puritans hate is a really bad idea.

I agree, but not wanting it on my TV has more to do with us showing her what kind of entertainment we enjoy in our house.  She is going to see that kind of thing anyway unless we lock he in her room.


 Last edited by: chupacabra on Feb. 4, 2020, 1:04 p.m., edited 1 time in total.

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