Convoy

Posted by: Couch_Surfer

Posted by: KenN

"What we are witnessing now is an acute failure of civic education in Canada. People simply do not understand their civic institutions, history or even basic political ideas. They do not understand who has what authority, or where the boundary of that authority resides. Evidence of this failure is all around us."

https://theconversation.com/ottawa-convoy-protest-points-to-a-failure-of-civic-education-in-canada-177271

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/governor-general-no-confidence-1.6360883

Said it before and will say it again... FB has gotta go. The misinformation is tearing the world apart. Watching it burn, with the gullible as the fuel. Fuck Zuck.

Can I share your post and give it a like?

Posted by: three-sheets

Also, ive recently learned that the feds have the "right" to censor the media via the emergencies act.

Who do you trust.....

In a case where so much stupidity and dangerous misinformation is being spread, then yes, it should be censored. That goes for any side of politics.

"The Office of the Secretary of the Governor General is aware that misinformation encouraging citizens to contact the Governor General or our office to register votes of no confidence is circulating on social media," the statement reads.

"This information is not correct. No such registry or process exists."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/governor-general-no-confidence-1.6360883?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar&fbclid=IwAR0SArvzbpe3AIGbVqXRi-Q74ZxYC8CzXhOfI9dUoI5CD6YetRWM0_xIPko

rather than censoring the GG chose to inform Canadians that this is untrue

10-15% of Canadians won't believe it cuz CBC is mainstream so i don't know if the viewer wants to believe it ;) ?

Posted by: three-sheets

Also, ive recently learned that the feds have the "right" to censor the media via the emergencies act.

Who do you trust.....

I posted a link to the Emergencies Act earlier in the thread.

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/e-4.5/page-1.html#docCont

I'll direct you specifically to Section 30 (2) (b)

30 (2) The power under subsection (1) to make orders and regulations, and any powers, duties or functions conferred or imposed by or pursuant to any such order or regulation,

         (b) shall not be exercised or performed for the purpose of censoring, suppressing or controlling the publication or communication of any information regardless of its form or characteristics.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/emergency-bank-measures-finance-committee-1.6360769

Some Conservative MPs have said constituents have reported that their bank accounts were frozen after they made donations to the convoy protest through one of its crowdfunding campaigns.

In a statement released Monday, the RCMP said it only provided banks with the names of convoy organizers and the owners of trucks who had refused to leave the protest area. The RCMP said it did not release an exhaustive list of every donation made."At no time did we provide a list of donors to financial institutions," the statement said.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservative-senator-friendly-patriotic-ottawa-convoy-1.6361392

an artical ^^ on all the conservative politicians falling over them selves to say stupid/ unpopular things instead of no comment, they should have checked a poll before openning their mouths

Posted by: Schnickelfritz

Posted by: three-sheets

Also, ive recently learned that the feds have the "right" to censor the media via the emergencies act.

Who do you trust.....

I posted a link to the Emergencies Act earlier in the thread.

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/e-4.5/page-1.html#docCont

I'll direct you specifically to Section 30 (2) (b)

30 (2) The power under subsection (1) to make orders and regulations, and any powers, duties or functions conferred or imposed by or pursuant to any such order or regulation,

(b) shall not be exercised or performed for the purpose of censoring, suppressing or controlling the publication or communication of any information regardless of its form or characteristics.

Good post, but I think it would have been better to let three-sheets come to that conclusion or find that info on his own.

Is anybody concerned that the judge denying bail to Lich has ties to Trudeau who championed her as a Liberal candidate in 2011?

Posted by: syncro

Posted by: Schnickelfritz

Posted by: three-sheets

Also, ive recently learned that the feds have the "right" to censor the media via the emergencies act.

Who do you trust.....

I posted a link to the Emergencies Act earlier in the thread.

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/e-4.5/page-1.html#docCont

I'll direct you specifically to Section 30 (2) (b)

30 (2) The power under subsection (1) to make orders and regulations, and any powers, duties or functions conferred or imposed by or pursuant to any such order or regulation,

(b) shall not be exercised or performed for the purpose of censoring, suppressing or controlling the publication or communication of any information regardless of its form or characteristics.

Good post, but I think it would have been better to let three-sheets come to that conclusion or find that info on his own.

You a harsh taskmaster.

Posted by: syncro

Posted by: Schnickelfritz

Posted by: three-sheets

Also, ive recently learned that the feds have the "right" to censor the media via the emergencies act.

Who do you trust.....

I posted a link to the Emergencies Act earlier in the thread.

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/e-4.5/page-1.html#docCont

I'll direct you specifically to Section 30 (2) (b)

30 (2) The power under subsection (1) to make orders and regulations, and any powers, duties or functions conferred or imposed by or pursuant to any such order or regulation,

(b) shall not be exercised or performed for the purpose of censoring, suppressing or controlling the publication or communication of any information regardless of its form or characteristics.

Good post, but I think it would have been better to let three-sheets come to that conclusion or find that info on his own.

You a harsh taskmaster. heh

Posted by: syncro

Posted by: Schnickelfritz

Posted by: three-sheets

Also, ive recently learned that the feds have the "right" to censor the media via the emergencies act.

Who do you trust.....

I posted a link to the Emergencies Act earlier in the thread.

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/e-4.5/page-1.html#docCont

I'll direct you specifically to Section 30 (2) (b)

30 (2) The power under subsection (1) to make orders and regulations, and any powers, duties or functions conferred or imposed by or pursuant to any such order or regulation,

(b) shall not be exercised or performed for the purpose of censoring, suppressing or controlling the publication or communication of any information regardless of its form or characteristics.

Good post, but I think it would have been better to let three-sheets come to that conclusion or find that info on his own.

Disagree. Sure, that would be better for Three-sheets' personal journey, but are you familiar with the Illusory Truth Effect? Misinformation that can be easily and openly debunked, should be. Being exposed to repeated misinformation is harmful to our society. Clearly debunking claims and making the information easily available so people who are inclined to, do not repeat the misinformation somewhere else, is more important in my opinion.

Posted by: tungsten

You a harsh taskmaster. heh

It's not about being a taskmaster, it's about what's most likely to get someone to consider information that differs from what they believe in.

Posted by: Schnickelfritz

Disagree. Sure, that would be better for Three-sheets' personal journey, but are you familiar with the Illusory Truth Effect? Misinformation that can be easily and openly debunked, should be. Being exposed to repeated misinformation is harmful to our society. Clearly debunking claims and making the information easily available so people who are inclined to, do not repeat the misinformation somewhere else, is more important in my opinion.

Yeah, it's something I "battle" with in the scope of this forum. I also don't like letting misinfo go unchallenged, but just questioning the methods to do that when the reach of this forum is limited and a lot of people on here either have friendships beyond the screen or have know each other via screen names for a long time. In situations like this I think it would be more effective to lead someone to challenge their own views via questioning how they got to their understanding than just pointing out why they are wrong where they might be inclined to just ignore it and/or trust their own sources.

Posted by: syncro

Yeah, it's something I "battle" with in the scope of this forum. I also don't like letting misinfo go unchallenged, but just questioning the methods to do that when the reach of this forum is limited and a lot of people on here either have friendships beyond the screen or have know each other via screen names for a long time. In situations like this I think it would be more effective to lead someone to challenge their own views via questioning how they got to their understanding than just pointing out why they are wrong where they might be inclined to just ignore it and/or trust their own sources.

Totally agree, for the most part. The only reason that I said anything was honestly Lowcard's response, when we start engaging with misinformation as if it were true, it becomes even more convincing to those who are inclined to believe and spread it. 

Posted by: Lowcard

In a case where so much stupidity and dangerous misinformation is being spread, then yes, it should be censored. That goes for any side of politics.