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Climate Change - so I'm starting to panic a bit

July 22, 2021, 4:31 a.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: KenN

I'm well and truly terrified of what my kids will have to face in their world after we've finished fucking it up.

And now you know why I've actively avoided having any. The world's bee  messed up for a long time.

And many here thank you.

July 22, 2021, 12:16 p.m.
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I am starting to think that solar geoengineering might not be such a bad idea.  Even if we were carbon neutral tomorrow and changed how we grow food and replant forests, there is theoretically a 40 years lag before the climate will stabilize at that level.  Since we are not doing that we can easily add 20 years, so 60 more years of warming beyond what we see today.  That is an Earth very different than the one we live on.  The only option would be to counter it somehow.  Thoughts?

July 22, 2021, 7:46 p.m.
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Posted by: FLATCH

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: KenN

I'm well and truly terrified of what my kids will have to face in their world after we've finished fucking it up.

And now you know why I've actively avoided having any. The world's bee  messed up for a long time.

And many here thank you.

Too bad the rest of you fornicators couldn't do the same.

July 22, 2021, 7:50 p.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

I am starting to think that solar geoengineering might not be such a bad idea.  Even if we were carbon neutral tomorrow and changed how we grow food and replant forests, there is theoretically a 40 years lag before the climate will stabilize at that level.  Since we are not doing that we can easily add 20 years, so 60 more years of warming beyond what we see today.  That is an Earth very different than the one we live on.  The only option would be to counter it somehow.  Thoughts?

What do we do with the old panels after they've expired? Similar to electric car batteries past their shelf life - we don't have a good means to recycle them.

July 22, 2021, 9:54 p.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: chupacabra

I am starting to think that solar geoengineering might not be such a bad idea.  Even if we were carbon neutral tomorrow and changed how we grow food and replant forests, there is theoretically a 40 years lag before the climate will stabilize at that level.  Since we are not doing that we can easily add 20 years, so 60 more years of warming beyond what we see today.  That is an Earth very different than the one we live on.  The only option would be to counter it somehow.  Thoughts?

What do we do with the old panels after they've expired? Similar to electric car batteries past their shelf life - we don't have a good means to recycle them.

It's called "de-growth". Irrespective of how efficient power storage evolves.

July 23, 2021, 12:39 a.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: chupacabra

I am starting to think that solar geoengineering might not be such a bad idea.  Even if we were carbon neutral tomorrow and changed how we grow food and replant forests, there is theoretically a 40 years lag before the climate will stabilize at that level.  Since we are not doing that we can easily add 20 years, so 60 more years of warming beyond what we see today.  That is an Earth very different than the one we live on.  The only option would be to counter it somehow.  Thoughts?

What do we do with the old panels after they've expired? Similar to electric car batteries past their shelf life - we don't have a good means to recycle them.

the usual bullshit from you, etablished recycling plants recycle around 80%, new ones in germany even 90%:

https://senec.com/de/senec-blog/recycling-von-pv-modulen

(you can translate that on your own)

July 23, 2021, 8:35 a.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: chupacabra

I am starting to think that solar geoengineering might not be such a bad idea.  Even if we were carbon neutral tomorrow and changed how we grow food and replant forests, there is theoretically a 40 years lag before the climate will stabilize at that level.  Since we are not doing that we can easily add 20 years, so 60 more years of warming beyond what we see today.  That is an Earth very different than the one we live on.  The only option would be to counter it somehow.  Thoughts?

What do we do with the old panels after they've expired? Similar to electric car batteries past their shelf life - we don't have a good means to recycle them.

That is not what I am talking about.

Solar geoengineering refers to proposed approaches to cool the Earth by reflecting solar radiation back to space. The two main approaches being researched are stratospheric aerosol injection (SAI) and marine cloud brightening (MCB).

https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/what-solar-geoengineering

July 24, 2021, 1:51 p.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: chupacabra

I am starting to think that solar geoengineering might not be such a bad idea.  Even if we were carbon neutral tomorrow and changed how we grow food and replant forests, there is theoretically a 40 years lag before the climate will stabilize at that level.  Since we are not doing that we can easily add 20 years, so 60 more years of warming beyond what we see today.  That is an Earth very different than the one we live on.  The only option would be to counter it somehow.  Thoughts?

What do we do with the old panels after they've expired? Similar to electric car batteries past their shelf life - we don't have a good means to recycle them.

That is not what I am talking about.

Solar geoengineering refers to proposed approaches to cool the Earth by reflecting solar radiation back to space. The two main approaches being researched are stratospheric aerosol injection (SAI) and marine cloud brightening (MCB).

https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/what-solar-geoengineering

Thats semi hilarious to me because when I've mentioned SAI in the past, aka, cloud seeding and the ever classic chem trails, its been laughed at bordering on ridicule. Lets say I think we need to find a better way to block the Sun. Not quite like Mr Burns' idea but leaving a chemical mixture at some level in the atmosphere doesnt sit well with me. Not just b/c Gates wanted to do it and was recently denied.

And I must ask, does that mean you are finally agreeing with me that the Sun is an issue regarding the Climate Change?

July 24, 2021, 1:53 p.m.
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Posted by: Sethimus

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: chupacabra

I am starting to think that solar geoengineering might not be such a bad idea.  Even if we were carbon neutral tomorrow and changed how we grow food and replant forests, there is theoretically a 40 years lag before the climate will stabilize at that level.  Since we are not doing that we can easily add 20 years, so 60 more years of warming beyond what we see today.  That is an Earth very different than the one we live on.  The only option would be to counter it somehow.  Thoughts?

What do we do with the old panels after they've expired? Similar to electric car batteries past their shelf life - we don't have a good means to recycle them.

the usual bullshit from you, etablished recycling plants recycle around 80%, new ones in germany even 90%:

https://senec.com/de/senec-blog/recycling-von-pv-modulen

(you can translate that on your own)

Nah you can keep it but I'll just ask if thats solar panels or also electric car batteries. I might be 50 50 on this one :P

ps: I'll say it again just to be gooder, if I'm wrong its probably because I dont know everything. Cool yer jets.

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