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Climate Change - so I'm starting to panic a bit

July 15, 2019, 9:14 a.m.
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Posted by: Sethimus

Posted by: tashi

One would assume he’s referring to the ISS.

as long as they are not self sufficient up there i would not call that "living in space"

No, they are not self-sufficient, but it was an example of how adaptive humans are.  Humans are indeed special, and very few serious academics believe we will not continue to exist as a species, at least not from climate change.  Civilization may be another story.  This is not really a controversial opinion.

And RM, people do live in space.  And yes, I meant the ISS.

July 15, 2019, 9:21 a.m.
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Posted by: syncro

I don't think we'll go extinct either, but I tend to think that a lot of vulnerable people in Africa, Central and South America, and Asia - basically those near the equator - are going to die when food and water become scarce. Places in more northern and southern climes will fair better, but their lifestyles will suffer too. BC will probably do fairly well, but how will we fend off the hoards of people that may try moving here? Our military will be useless against mass migration.

We're starting to hear more and more about the connections between all aspects of life and changes that are happening to what were once robust species/populations. I'm starting to worry more about the cascade effect, that when we hit that tipping point things go to shit in a hurry because everything collapses all at once. Even with that though, there will be humans who survive, and not all of them will be moneyed or elite type people. I think a lot of those people will get run the fuck over in the stampede for the exits, but I'm sure there will be some who have small private armies and a protective compound to keep them going. Going for what tho will be interesting if most manufacturing and industry has collapsed along with the energy sector and agriculture.

Darwin round 2 here we come!

This is pretty much where I am at as well.  The collapse of the food and water supply would change the globe in a hurry and who knows what kind of war or awfulness comes from mass die-offs and resource shortage.  I have been wondering for a while now if that is a cause of expensive real estate in Canada that nobody is paying attention to.  Those worst-case climate models where we go about "business as usual" for another 50 years are just not feasible because the climate is going to force change on us.

July 15, 2019, 11:34 a.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: syncro

I don't think we'll go extinct either, but I tend to think that a lot of vulnerable people in Africa, Central and South America, and Asia - basically those near the equator - are going to die when food and water become scarce. Places in more northern and southern climes will fair better, but their lifestyles will suffer too. BC will probably do fairly well, but how will we fend off the hoards of people that may try moving here? Our military will be useless against mass migration.

We're starting to hear more and more about the connections between all aspects of life and changes that are happening to what were once robust species/populations. I'm starting to worry more about the cascade effect, that when we hit that tipping point things go to shit in a hurry because everything collapses all at once. Even with that though, there will be humans who survive, and not all of them will be moneyed or elite type people. I think a lot of those people will get run the fuck over in the stampede for the exits, but I'm sure there will be some who have small private armies and a protective compound to keep them going. Going for what tho will be interesting if most manufacturing and industry has collapsed along with the energy sector and agriculture.

Darwin round 2 here we come!

This is pretty much where I am at as well.  The collapse of the food and water supply would change the globe in a hurry and who knows what kind of war or awfulness comes from mass die-offs and resource shortage.  I have been wondering for a while now if that is a cause of expensive real estate in Canada that nobody is paying attention to.  Those worst-case climate models where we go about "business as usual" for another 50 years are just not feasible because the climate is going to force change on us.

It's going to be a challenge.

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/613342/get-ready-for-tens-of-millions-of-climate-refugees/

July 15, 2019, 12:42 p.m.
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Posted by: Brocklanders

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/613342/get-ready-for-tens-of-millions-of-climate-refugees/

Somewhere back on page7 I mentioned eco refugee's and carbon tax.

We're paying for it.

July 15, 2019, 2:36 p.m.
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Anyone else consider Chandler's Wobble theory could also explain the breaks in our seasons? Lets see.. around the end of the month, we'll go back to "less summer like" weather for another 2-3 weeks.

July 23, 2019, 12:23 a.m.
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Cdn. content..... https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/07/22/hey-diddle-diddle-like-nero-we-fiddle/

July 23, 2019, 3:15 a.m.
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I read somewhere that last week in Iran, it reached 70c... explains the undergound systems in the ME?

July 24, 2019, 11:42 a.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

I read somewhere that last week in Iran, it reached 70c... explains the undergound systems in the ME?

I can only find stuff pre-2017 pertaining to that.

July 26, 2019, 7:10 p.m.
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http://dkeenan.com/Flametree.pdf

July 26, 2019, 9:06 p.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: Sethimus

Posted by: tashi

One would assume he’s referring to the ISS.

as long as they are not self sufficient up there i would not call that "living in space"

No, they are not self-sufficient, but it was an example of how adaptive humans are.  Humans are indeed special, and very few serious academics believe we will not continue to exist as a species, at least not from climate change.  Civilization may be another story.  This is not really a controversial opinion.

And RM, people do live in space.  And yes, I meant the ISS.

Oh FFS man. 

How long can they live there without anything from the rock.

July 27, 2019, 1:39 a.m.
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https://insideclimatenews.org/news/25072019/glacier-melting-warming-oceans-climate-change-arctic-antarctica-study

https://www.carbonbrief.org/direct-co2-capture-machines-could-use-quarter-global-energy-in-2100

July 27, 2019, 1:18 p.m.
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Posted by: Sethimus

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/25072019/glacier-melting-warming-oceans-climate-change-arctic-antarctica-study

https://www.carbonbrief.org/direct-co2-capture-machines-could-use-quarter-global-energy-in-2100

I'll see your icn/cb and raise you... https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-cheapest-way-to-save-the-planet-grows-like-a-weed/

July 29, 2019, 8:36 a.m.
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The arctic is burning ....

https://www.livescience.com/66022-wildfires-burning-arctic.html

July 29, 2019, 9:33 a.m.
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Posted by: ReductiMat

Oh FFS man. 

How long can they live there without anything from the rock.

Not long I presume, but that wasn't my point. I wasn't claiming that we could just "live in space" if that is what you were thinking, we would be staying on the rock.  My point was that humans can and will adapt to climate change if we are sophisticated enough to have a space station.  FFS, I thought that was obvious.  I mean, I used words that explained it and everything.  You quoted them.

July 29, 2019, 9:38 a.m.
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Posted by: KenN

The arctic is burning ....

https://www.livescience.com/66022-wildfires-burning-arctic.html

I don't want to take away from the seriousness of all the fires in the Arctic, but couldn't we see most wildfires from space?

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