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City of Burnaby Files Civil Claim against Kinder Morgan in Supreme Court (Merged)

Sept. 15, 2014, 3:10 p.m.
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/kinder-morgan-s-trans-mountain-pipeline-could-cross-b-c-parks-1.2762822

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/carol-linnitt/bc-parks-bill-4-passes_b_5030406.html

Just surprises me that this bill allows companies to essentially disregard bylaws and laws. Whatever happened to Corporate Social Responsibility?

Sept. 15, 2014, 3:28 p.m.
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Joined: March 7, 2004

Why? This country is for sale to the highest bidder, no matter the consequences (see FIPA)

Sept. 15, 2014, 8:34 p.m.
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Joined: April 5, 2007

Why? This country is for sale to the lowest bidder, no matter the consequences (see FIPA)

FYP

Why slag free swag?:rolleyes:

ummm, as your doctor i recommend against riding with a scaphoid fracture.

Sept. 15, 2014, 8:50 p.m.
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Joined: June 4, 2008

Why? This country is for sale to the best kick-backs or future offers, no matter the consequences (see FIPA)

FBOYP

Remember, if you're against this, YOU ARE A DIRTY ROTTEN SOCIALIST.

Sept. 16, 2014, 10:51 a.m.
Posts: 352
Joined: Oct. 27, 2005

I think this is the link we should use to offer feedback.

http://survey.constantcontact.com/survey/a07e9pdzaamhyvsrloj/a01eci05j9no3/questions

Nothing about Burnaby though……

:canada:

Sept. 17, 2014, 1:33 p.m.
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Joined: Nov. 19, 2002

B.C. court denies Burnaby’s bid to block Trans Mountain survey crews
http://business.financialpost.com/2014/09/17/b-c-court-denies-burnabys-bid-to-block-trans-mountain-survey-crews/?__lsa=f36d-3e9f

Guess that answers the question:
Oil money [HTML_REMOVED] Park land

Sept. 17, 2014, 2:01 p.m.
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Joined: Jan. 31, 2005

Now might be a good time to see if they'd be open to logging the parks.

There's nothing better than an Orangina after cheating death with Digger.

Sept. 17, 2014, 8:31 p.m.
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Joined: Sept. 11, 2003

http://www.theprovince.com/news/vancouver/Kinder+Morgan+abandon+Burnaby+Mountain+pipeline+route/10211284/story.html

According to section 73 of the National Energy Board Act, companies can conduct work on private property and Crown land without the landowners’ permission.

I think its time someone create a Shell (no pun intended) energy company and start doing work on the property of a Supreme Court Justice (like building a dump). I think they'd be thrilled.

Sept. 17, 2014, 8:43 p.m.
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Joined: Oct. 23, 2003

Now might be a good time to see if they'd be open to logging the parks.

Too dry around these parts..need some rain first

Ha Ha! Made you look.

Sept. 17, 2014, 8:46 p.m.
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Ahem. I'm incorporated. If anyone wants to build mountain bike trails anywhere on park land, let me know and I'll let you.

Sept. 18, 2014, 10:34 a.m.
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Good pun but Shell got thrown out of Iskuit by a bunch of old ladies

Sept. 18, 2014, 2:11 p.m.
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Joined: Feb. 5, 2005

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/n-7/page-39.html#h-59

PART VPOWERS OF PIPELINE COMPANIES
General Powers
Marginal note: Powers of company

73. A company may, for the purposes of its undertaking, subject to this Act and to any Special Act applicable to it,

(a) enter into and on any Crown land without previous licence therefor, or into or on the land of any person, lying in the intended route of its pipeline, and make surveys, examinations or other necessary arrangements on the land for fixing the site of the pipeline, and set out and ascertain such parts of the land as are necessary and proper for the pipeline;

(b) purchase, take and hold of and from any person any land or other property necessary for the construction, maintenance and operation of its pipeline and sell or otherwise dispose of any of its land or property that for any reason has become unnecessary for the purpose of the pipeline;

(C) construct, lay, carry or place its pipeline across, on or under the land of any person on the located line of the pipeline;

(d) join its pipeline with the transmission facilities of any other person at any point on its route;

(e) construct, erect and maintain all necessary and convenient roads, buildings, houses, stations, depots, wharves, docks and other structures, and construct, purchase and acquire machinery and other apparatus necessary for the construction, maintenance and operation of its pipeline;

(f) construct, maintain and operate branch lines, and for that purpose exercise all the powers, privileges and authority necessary therefor, in as full and ample a manner as for a pipeline;

(g) alter, repair or discontinue the works mentioned in this section, or any of them, and substitute others in their stead;

(h) transmit hydrocarbons by pipeline and regulate the time and manner in which hydrocarbons shall be transmitted, and the tolls to be charged therefor; and

(i) do all other acts necessary for the construction, maintenance and operation of its pipeline.

R.S., 1985, c. N-7, s. 73;
2004, c. 25, s. 154.

Sounds pretty cut and dry to me.

That's the problem with cities, they're refuges for the weak, the fish that didn't evolve.

I don't want to google this - sounds like a thing that NSMB will be better at.

Sept. 18, 2014, 5:21 p.m.
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Joined: Sept. 11, 2003

"Purchase, take and hold of and from any person any land or other property necessary for the construction, maintenance and operation of its pipeline"

Sounds pretty cut and dry to me.

Yup, it approves the appropriation and seizure of private land or other property as well.

Sept. 18, 2014, 9:07 p.m.
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Joined: Aug. 4, 2009

It will all be exported to China. Future generations can suck it.

BTW, I wonder what the business case for LNG tankers crossing the Pacific Ocean to China will be if/when the Russians build a pipeline direct from their oilfields to China and charge rock-bottom prices ($10-$11 per million cubic feet). Knowing the Russians, they will probably gladly lose money on it just to piss off Harper and Blowhard Baird.

http://business.financialpost.com/2014/05/30/russia-china-gas-deal-could-squeeze-economics-of-canadian-lng-projects-td/?__lsa=4f65-3205

Also, there seems to be no Canadian players in the LNG game. Canada has to rely on such players as Malaysia's Petronas (State Oil Company) to do the deal on our behalf, like a 3rd world country.

Chevron Canada, Shell Canada, ConocoPhillips Canada, I'd say Apache but they just bowed out, CNRL, etc.

Not only that, many Canadian companies are feeling MAJOR fringe benefits from the extraction. Drilling contractors are currently supplying in the neighborhood of 1000 jobs drilling those wells only, several hundred of which will be sustained servicing the wells over their lifespan and thousands more will be created to work the flow of the gas. Thousands of temporary jobs have been created through pipeline infrastructure work already in construction stage between various facilities. Hundreds of jobs have been created in the portable housing industry. Restaurants, hotels, local businesses and national corporations have all reaped benefits of a very minor start up.

Every operator is giving contractual priority to local companies, expenses be damned.

Sept. 18, 2014, 9:14 p.m.
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Joined: June 4, 2008

Chevron Canada, Shell Canada, ConocoPhillips Canada, I'd say Apache but they just bowed out, CNRL, etc.

Not only that, many Canadian companies are feeling MAJOR fringe benefits from the extraction. Drilling contractors are currently supplying in the neighborhood of 1000 jobs drilling those wells only, several hundred of which will be sustained servicing the wells over their lifespan and thousands more will be created to work the flow of the gas. Thousands of temporary jobs have been created through pipeline infrastructure work already in construction stage between various facilities. Hundreds of jobs have been created in the portable housing industry. Restaurants, hotels, local businesses and national corporations have all reaped benefits of a very minor start up.

Every operator is giving contractual priority to local companies, expenses be damned.

Is it a good idea to sell your Wayne Gretzky rookie card in '85 or a decade or two later?

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