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China Syndrome

Dec. 9, 2020, 9:23 a.m.
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Posted by: ReductiMat

Posted by: syncro

Posted by: ReductiMat

These people make Americans and their immigrant cages look like fucking saints.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/12/08/huawei-tested-ai-software-that-could-recognize-uighur-minorities-alert-police-report-says/

the really cool part about that is huawei stole a shit ton of tech from nortel which allowed them to become a player in telcom and effectively kill nortel. we were too nice to assume that someone would actually steal from us.

The Liberal and Conservative parties we only vote for sold us the fuck out.

All you cunts who tie your ship to them should feel shame.

I voted for the Liberals in the past and may again. Call me what you want.

IMO none of the other parties can do much about this and there are no independent saviors waiting in the wings so getting pissy with people's politics is meaningless. For me, the biggest problem with parties outside the mainstream is that they are all on the political fringes except of the Greens which is why I have voted for them recently. If the Greens would rebrand so they didn't appear to be a one trick pony I think their appeal would grow since they are pretty down the middle on a lot of issues and taking climate change seriously shouldn't be partisan. Having an anti-corruption platform seems to be a no-brainer in the era of strongmen but I haven't really seen that. Too many with hands in the cookie jar I guess.

The problems are systemic and if Canada became a lone wolf in standing up to China 20 years ago would we be better off today? Nortel shares the blame here too as their security of the investment of billions in research was dog shit. Even after they were hacked all they did was change the passwords and were presumably hacked again.

So what did the candidate you voted for have planned to combat government backed hacking of our companies and government entities?


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Dec. 9, 2020, 10:07 a.m.
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Greens do have a bit of an image problem in that by their name alone, they appear to be the "one trick pony", but after a little digging, they really do have a comprehensive and far-reaching platform.  Too bad they aren't better at communicating that nugget.

We need prop-rep so that;

a) parties like Greens can get the seat count that is truly reflective of their vote count and

b) voters will feel more empowered to vote for something other than Cons or Libs, because they won't have to feel like a vote for 'other' is just throwing their vote away.

Dec. 9, 2020, 10:47 a.m.
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Feel free to knock me but I always thought the federal NDP and the Greens should merge. I think that would give both parties a realistic chance. Maybe a true third choice.

Dec. 9, 2020, 10:52 a.m.
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Posted by: KenN

Greens do have a bit of an image problem in that by their name alone, they appear to be the "one trick pony", but after a little digging, they really do have a comprehensive and far-reaching platform.  Too bad they aren't better at communicating that nugget.

We need prop-rep so that;

a) parties like Greens can get the seat count that is truly reflective of their vote count and

b) voters will feel more empowered to vote for something other than Cons or Libs, because they won't have to feel like a vote for 'other' is just throwing their vote away.

^^^^^^^

Dec. 9, 2020, 12:01 p.m.
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Posted by: FLATCH

Feel free to knock me but I always thought the federal NDP and the Greens should merge. I think that would give both parties a realistic chance. Maybe a true third choice.

Knock knock. Compile seats won by NDP/Greens last time . Enough? No. Merging would subsume the Greens into the ether. 

Besides, even though their current leader has been making "progressive" rumblings the NDP ain't really been that for quite some time. Teh Greens are.

Dec. 9, 2020, 12:10 p.m.
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This.... so F'n sloppy...... 

"The problems are systemic and if Canada became a lone wolf in standing up to China 20 years ago would we be better off today? Nortel shares the blame here too as their security of the investment of billions in research was dog shit. Even after they were hacked all they did was change the passwords and were presumably hacked again."

Dec. 9, 2020, 12:35 p.m.
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Posted by: Brocklanders

This.... so F'n sloppy...... 

"The problems are systemic and if Canada became a lone wolf in standing up to China 20 years ago would we be better off today? Nortel shares the blame here too as their security of the investment of billions in research was dog shit. Even after they were hacked all they did was change the passwords and were presumably hacked again."

??  Canada is small and we get pushed around.  I don't like it, but I don't see that any other leader would have done much to stop China while keeping our economy going and still get re-elected.  The only way we will ever stand up to China is if the world does it at the same time, and that might start happening soon.

Dec. 10, 2020, 1:49 p.m.
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I can't wait until Xi is Emperor and we all live in dorms.

Dec. 19, 2020, 12:04 a.m.
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Why can't we be moar like teh Chinese, Red?

“A key—and under-reported—part of the response to the virus was in the public action that defines Chinese society. In the 1950s, urban civil organizations—or juweihui—developed as way for residents in neighborhoods to organize their mutual safety and mutual aid. In Wuhan, as the lockdown developed, it was members of the neighborhood committees who went door-to-door to check temperatures, to deliver food (particularly to the elderly) and to deliver medical supplies. In other parts of China, the neighborhood committees set up temperature checkpoints at the entrance of the neighborhoods to monitor people who went in and out; this was basic public health in a decentralized fashion.”

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/12/18/capitalism-on-a-ventilator/

“Karl Marx in Wuhan: Chinese socialism is defeating COVID-19”:

“In capitalist countries, governments are essentially under the control of capital; in socialist countries, capital is essentially under the control of the government."

This is true. And today, under the repressive control of inhumane capital, the US (and Canada) is becoming a hellscape.


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Feb. 6, 2021, 10:02 p.m.
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https://youtu.be/dvitP_LvoKM

Oh, and.....

https://thegrayzone.com/2021/01/28/ny-times-uighur-china-genocide-falun-gong/


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Feb. 9, 2021, 11:36 a.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

I can't wait until Xi is Emperor and we all live in dorms.

99% rate of home ownership per family is definitely something to aspire to.

Feb. 23, 2021, 6:11 p.m.
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While Democracy Now hosts US gov’t-funded pundits to spread humanitarian interventionist propaganda about Xinjiang, an analysis by The Grayzone found most of the outlets’s China coverage is sharply negative

The U.S. has claimed a humanitarian “Responsibility to Protect” to justify military operations in the name of saving civilian lives from evil dictators. Most notable have been the brutal U.S.-led wars in Libya and Syria which destabilized entire regions in the name of “civilian protection” and “promoting democracy.” These operations relied heavily on self-described human rights NGO’s and media outlets to cultivate support among liberal sectors of the US intelligentsia. Sadly, Democracy Now has been among the most influential and insidious outlets carrying water for the humanitarian interventionist agenda.  

https://thegrayzone.com/2021/02/22/democracy-nows-china-state-departments-cold-war/

March 17, 2021, 9:13 p.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

‘Independent’ report claiming Uyghur genocide brought to you by sham university, neocon ideologues lobbying to ‘punish’ China

US media hailed a Newlines Institute report accusing China of Uyghur genocide as a “landmark” independent analysis. A look beneath the surface reveals it as a regime change propaganda tool by interventionist operatives at a sham university.

https://thegrayzone.com/2021/03/17/report-uyghur-genocide-sham-university-neocon-punish-china/

"Xi Lives!"


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March 25, 2021, 12:47 p.m.
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https://www.codepink.org/blinken?utm_campaign=china_blinken_stop_t&utm_medium=email&utm_source=codepink

April 27, 2021, 10:28 p.m.
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Saab was en route to Iran to acquire basic food, medicine, and medical equipment needed for the people of Venezuela when, on June 12, 2020, he was detained –– in effect kidnapped –– during a stopover in Cape Verde, due to a US government extradition request.

Mun was arrested in Malaysia in May 2019 shortly after a Washington, DC federal judge issued a warrant for his arrest. He spent nearly two years fighting extradition, arguing that his case was politically motivated and was being used as leverage in possible nuclear negotiations between the US and North Korea.

The most infamous of these three extradition cases is that of Meng Wanzhou, chief financial officer and deputy chair of the board of the Chinese tech giant Huawei.

Meng faces charges of fraud for allegedly misleading HSBC, a British bank, about Huawei business dealings in Iran, causing the bank to break unilateral US sanctions against Iran.

On August 22, 2018, a US District Court in New York issued an arrest warrant for Meng. Canada’s RCMP then arrested her in Vancouver on December 1, 2018, at US request.

https://thegrayzone.com/2021/04/27/us-extradite-foreign-businesspeople-sanctions-saab-wanzhou/

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