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July 4, 2019, 5:29 p.m.
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Posted by: Fast-Orange

I would say shooting unarmed peaceful protestors and shooting at a crowd that is trying to kill you are two very very different things

Possibly, it depends on why they where there and what drove them to that point to if it is in fact true for ALL the protesters that were killed. 

I honestly think you have a blind spot when it comes to China on these sorts of issues.

July 12, 2019, 10:12 p.m.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/19/opinion/mexico-porpoise-extinction.html

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/07/12/save-the-whales/

Aug. 21, 2019, 1:19 a.m.
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President Donald Trump tweeted on August 13 that he “can’t imagine why” the United States has been blamed for the chaotic protests that have gripped Hong Kong.

Trump’s befuddlement might be understandable considering the carefully managed narrative of the U.S. government and its unofficial media apparatus, which have portrayed the protests as an organic “pro-democracy” expression of grassroots youth. However, a look beneath the surface of this oversimplified, made-for-television script reveals that the ferociously anti-Chinese network behind the demonstrations has been cultivated with the help of millions of dollars from the U.S. government, as well as a Washington-linked local media tycoon...... 

https://consortiumnews.com/2019/08/19/us-backs-xenophobia-mob-violence-in-hong-kong/

Freedom of contract. We sell them guns that kill them; they sell us drugs that kill us.

Aug. 24, 2019, 1:26 a.m.
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China is one of the most indebted countries in the world. By one measure, China’s debt has already passed 300 percent of gross domestic product. 

The unwritten agreement in China is economic growth for obedience which is why the issue of debt, and how to eventually tackle it, strikes at the heart of the political system. 

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/08/23/what-chinas-leadership-is-really-worried-about-rising-debt/

Aug. 24, 2019, 12:36 p.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

President Donald Trump tweeted on August 13 that he “can’t imagine why” the United States has been blamed for the chaotic protests that have gripped Hong Kong.

Trump’s befuddlement might be understandable considering the carefully managed narrative of the U.S. government and its unofficial media apparatus, which have portrayed the protests as an organic “pro-democracy” expression of grassroots youth. However, a look beneath the surface of this oversimplified, made-for-television script reveals that the ferociously anti-Chinese network behind the demonstrations has been cultivated with the help of millions of dollars from the U.S. government, as well as a Washington-linked local media tycoon...... 

https://consortiumnews.com/2019/08/19/us-backs-xenophobia-mob-violence-in-hong-kong/

The protest's were originally about the extradition bill that allowed China to yank HK residents for cimes they probably never heard about it or stood for trial for.

It's ironic isnt it - China extremely protested extraditing Meng/Huawei CFO but doesnt mind jackin the proles.

Aug. 24, 2019, 2:06 p.m.
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I just wish FO would post how his family was instructed on how to intimidate the peaceful protesters here in Van.

Sept. 28, 2019, 5:25 p.m.
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China is the best.

China is harvesting thousands of human organs from its Uighur Muslim minority, UN human-rights body hears

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-harvesting-organs-of-uighur-muslims-china-tribunal-tells-un-2019-9?utm_source=reddit.com

Sept. 30, 2019, 12:15 p.m.
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Posted by: ReductiMat

China is the best.

China is harvesting thousands of human organs from its Uighur Muslim minority, UN human-rights body hears

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-harvesting-organs-of-uighur-muslims-china-tribunal-tells-un-2019-9?utm_source=reddit.com

They want to erase them, it's as simple as that.  This is a good piece that VICE did with a couple of their correspondents.  They looked somewhat like Uyghurs so they get harassed constantly.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7AYyUqrMuQ

Sept. 30, 2019, 3:02 p.m.
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I had to cancel a business trip to Hong Kong a while back on the way to the airport as that was the first day of the protests taking over the airport. Air Canada said that my flight would take off but it didnt know where it would land as events were unfolding fast and while planes were allowed to land in HK that day, none were allowed to depart. Air Canada didnt want to be accumulating planes at the HK airport. So I cancelled and rebooked after things settled down and changed meeting location from HK to Macau, landing in HK. The ferry between the two is neat as you dont leave the secure side of the arrivals - the ferry is just like another connection.

Anyways - was there for fewer than 24hrs and this is what I saw:

I took the new bridge from the airport to Macau. Its the most incredible bridge Ive ever seen. 55km long to get you from HK to Macau. Easiest way to do that was a shuttle bus - there were maybe 10 people on it? Most interesting is that the entire time on that bridge, I didnt see another vehicle going either direction. I could see as far as the eye could see ahead and behind - not one vehicle. Crazy to think that you have both directions of a 55km bridge to yourself (although if another vehicle was 20km ahead going in same direction I wouldnt have seen it).

I had an long business meeting so we booked a room in the Macau conf center - connected to all the hotels. It was massive - maybe the biggest conf center Ive ever been in. What else was going on there? ZERO. We were the only occupied room in the whole place - hundreds of meeting rooms.

The ferry terminal in Macau is a gorgeous new building. Big. Multiple ferries per day from two different ferry providers. EMPTY. Just like if you would walk into the grand entrance of Central Station in NYC and you are the only person in it. I walked from one side to the other and saw employees only one pass. My ferry probably sat 800 people. Maybe 25 on board?

It was bizarre. All these amazing new things but no users. Macau itself was full of tourists I guess - shopping and restaurants all busy - but the infrastructure between it and HK and the conf center ghost towns. I thought that it was interesting.


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Oct. 2, 2019, 2 p.m.
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/hong-kong-china-students-rallies-ubc-vancouver-1.5305762

I guess the ones here all for Communist China have rich parents back home in the elite circles. So much for class struggle when you are a rich Communist.

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Oct. 2, 2019, 3:39 p.m.
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Looks more like a slow news day.

Oct. 2, 2019, 5:33 p.m.
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Those people from the mainland are a menace.

Oct. 2, 2019, 9:23 p.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

Those people from the mainland are a menace.

100%

Oct. 3, 2019, 8:28 a.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: ReductiMat

China is the best.

China is harvesting thousands of human organs from its Uighur Muslim minority, UN human-rights body hears

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-harvesting-organs-of-uighur-muslims-china-tribunal-tells-un-2019-9?utm_source=reddit.com

They want to erase them, it's as simple as that.  This is a good piece that VICE did with a couple of their correspondents.  They looked somewhat like Uyghurs so they get harassed constantly.  

That is messed up. Pretty ballsy considering she could have been locked up no questions asked.

Oct. 3, 2019, 11:06 a.m.
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Posted by: Brocklanders

Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: ReductiMat

China is the best.

China is harvesting thousands of human organs from its Uighur Muslim minority, UN human-rights body hears

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-harvesting-organs-of-uighur-muslims-china-tribunal-tells-un-2019-9?utm_source=reddit.com

They want to erase them, it's as simple as that.  This is a good piece that VICE did with a couple of their correspondents.  They looked somewhat like Uyghurs so they get harassed constantly.  

That is messed up. Pretty ballsy considering she could have been locked up no questions asked.

Some of the young Vice reporters have huge balls.  This one is Isobel Yeung and she is as tough as they come.

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