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Building a Park over a Dump

May 18, 2011, 8:48 a.m.
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We're surrounded by natural forest that keeps getting gobbled up and turned into sprawl and these clowns want to spend $36 million building a "nature park" over a dump rather than buy some natural greenspace off forest companies.

RDN Turning Trash Pile into Parkland

If they raise tipping fees to fund it then the public will dump even more garbage in the surrounding forest to avoid paying those fees. Oh the irony.

May 18, 2011, 8:51 a.m.
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Inter River park used to be a dump now it has a bmx track, mtb skills park , ball fields etc. Happens alot , what else are they supposed to do with the land?

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May 18, 2011, 9:04 a.m.
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Inter River park used to be a dump now it has a bmx track, mtb skills park , ball fields etc. Happens alot , what else are they supposed to do with the land?

How about a strip mall?

May 18, 2011, 9:07 a.m.
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How about a strip mall?

yeah, cause there aren't enough of those, seriously your complaining about the creation of new parkland?

Granted, something more natural may be more appealing but we're not exactly short of natural places to go play in.

May 18, 2011, 9:09 a.m.
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What are you talking shit about specifically? Pretty sure this always happens when landfills are no longer used. Should we just leave a pile of shit forever? Penticton dump has the most epic view I can't wait till they're done with it.

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May 18, 2011, 9:13 a.m.
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How about a strip mall?

a dump outgasses methane.

methane is flammable and lethal if contained, say in a strip mall.

thus, they build parks over dumps. The vented pipes you see in the ground are venting the methane gas to the atmosphere so that it doesn't collect in the ground.

May 18, 2011, 9:17 a.m.
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I think turning a former dump into a park is actually a pretty good idea. Not much else you can do with the land, would you want to purchase a house if you knew it was built on-top of a former dump?

Housing over a former dump site is obviously a no-go for health reasons, but getting any structural engineer to sign off on any type of building constructed over a former dump would be difficult as organic material tends to settle and compress as it decomposes. Eventually as the ground sinks the floor slab will crack, walls will lean, and finally the building will collapse.

That said, buildings can be built on former dumps, it happens all the time. An example is the Home Depot on United Blvd in Coquitlam. I think the primary settlement usually occurs over about 20-30 yrs, after that time period the ground is much more stable.

As far as the methane, buildings can be built with methane collection systems under the slab, its basically the exact same as drain-tile, usually connects to a riser pipe somewhere in the middle of the building where it is vented up to the roof.

May 18, 2011, 9:17 a.m.
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yeah, cause there aren't enough of those, seriously your complaining about the creation of new parkland?

I guess I am. Strip malls, houses, parking lots, etc. will continue to displace natural greenspace so why not put it on top of a dump instead. creating "parkland" seems backasswards to me.

Granted, something more natural may be more appealing but we're not exactly short of natural places to go play in.

You sure about that??

May 18, 2011, 9:23 a.m.
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why not put it on top of a dump instead. creating "parkland" seems backasswards to me.

this is why not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC31eXovlEI#t=1m18s

May 18, 2011, 9:50 a.m.
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As much as the words Love Canal sound descriptive of something pornographic, it is "one of the most appalling environmental tragedies in American history".

http://www.epa.gov/history/topics/lovecanal/01.htm

You simply can't predict all of the crap that's going to leech out of a dump site, and putting up boxes that trap gases is not a good idea. Esp if people want to hang around inside of said boxes.

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When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion.

May 18, 2011, 9:54 a.m.
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You sure about that??

last time i checked… yes! you live here right?

May 18, 2011, 10:04 a.m.
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I think turning a former dump into a park is actually a pretty good idea. Not much else you can do with the land, would you want to purchase a house if you knew it was built on-top of a former dump?

Former dump,

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May 18, 2011, 10:38 a.m.
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Back home in the UK my local soccer team had their ground built over a former dump. Probably not relevant here but seemed a pretty good use of the land to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madejski_Stadium

I can see what the OP is getting at though. The state puts a bunch of tax money into creating new parkspace, whilst at the same time destroying natural landscapes in the name of housing and other projects.

May 18, 2011, 11:18 a.m.
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Former dump,

the bastards! What's next, a pumptrack?!

May 18, 2011, 12:18 p.m.
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I'd like to reply to this thread but I've got to go take a dump first.

Wrong. Always.

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