are you kidding me

i blame the greeks.

its so easy to blame the 3rd world people isnt it.

My basic point is that Canada is increasingly none white. Wearing turbans is becoming less of a feature small minority groups and more of a feature of the average Canadian. We aren't there yet but we need to stop treating these as minority issues or that this is somehow and issue of 'us' accomidating 'them'. They are us. And in signifigant numbers. Its not a bad thing. Its just how things are.

The rule to wear helmets wasn't implemented in order to target any minorities. The rule was brought in for safety issues.

The expectation of an employee that their workplace will remain static for the duration of their employment is unrealiastic, to say the least.

One great thing about Canada is that you have the right to choose a lot of things, and one of those things is where you work. If you do not like your place of employment, you have the right to find employment somewhere else.

If you get bored with your work, you have the right to quit any time. If you can get a job closer to home that pays more money, you can quit any time.

But if an employer requires you to observe a new safety regulation, that is implemented for the benefit of all employees as well as the employer, what gives the employee the right to tell the employer to shove it up his ass?

If you believe it is OK for these guys to skirt around the requirements of their work, perhaps you'll find it OK if someone with Blackfoot/Sioux in their blood light up a cigarette in a meeting room with you.

I still think that religious and cultural practice should have some room in Canadian laws and regulation as long as the accomidations don't violate basic charter rights.

That is fucking bullshit.

Religion should have NO effect on anything like this. You make an exception for ONE religion then you have to do it for all others.

Rules and regulations like this aren't tailored so you can wear your god damn cloth hat on a job with very real hazards that do happen almost everyday. These rules are made so you don't get yourself hurt, and you don't fuck over whoever you're working for in the process.

For all I care, the sikhs can cry all the want. I really hope they don't get their way and the courts actually have a backbone about this.

and the sad part is our pathetic gov't will cave to this PC bullshit because they are scared of offending a couple of people and will create two seperate sets of rules.

In case you havent noticed up in the boonies, the Sikhs arent just a "couple of people". They can change the vote through the temple, they can install who they prefer now. Its going the way of our southern border brethren.

What if as a white dude, I just decide to be sikh? Can I opt out of a hard out while being offered the same paying yet different job?

i don't have an issue with it at all.

however, if this individual sustains an injury as a direct result of not wearing the required safety gear, then he should not be entitled to any type of compensation for said injuries.

That is the way it is now. You don't follow the rules, you aren't covered. No issue there…..The problem is what if your neglegence causes someone else to get hurt…..Who pays for that?

Some of you still seem to think this is a race/religion issue. This is a safety issue. Plain and simple. For those of you that think it is just some white guy in an office making up rules; Does a white guy make up the hard hat rules for Japan? They have to wear hard hats there.

I admit I didn't read the story before. I did, and it turns out that the one guy has been there 20 years, but the other has only been there for 4. To me, it looks like there was probably an incident at the mill, WCB investigated, determined that it could have been prevented if the worker was wearing a hard hat. The mill not wanting their compo rates to go up agreed to impose a hard hat rule. This happens all the time. I'm sure there were alot of white folks that weren't happy either. You want to work….you follow the employers rules. Even if they change. If there are rules that you simply wont follow, then you should look for another job, or be prepared to face the consequences.

i blame the greeks.

and we all know the greeks don't want no freaks

it is tough to wade through all this thinly veiled racial anger and see the actual arguments here

I guess it's safe to assume that all the hard hat nazis wear their PPE/seatbelt/bike helmet/respirator/safety goggles EVERY time they are supposed to. I'd hate to think there was some sort of hypocracy going on here.

PS I'm not wearing my steel toes right now.

PS I'm not wearing my steel toes right now.

And if you walked into a desk and blackened your toe nails and needed some time off to get it removed you would be hooped.

Safety rules are there because someone got hurt in the past.

Fall arrest harness? Someone fell. Steel toe boots? Toes crushed/cut off. Hard hat? Someone's head got smashed in. Hi-vis vest? Someone got tagged by a forklift or truck.

The company seems to be willing to accomidate the employees yet they (or their lawyer, hard to tell) are standing their ground.

I have a cousin that is in a wheelchair. She applies for jobs and is often told she can't do it because the building isn't accessable. What does she do? Moves along. She can't expect all old buildings to build alift just for her, nor should she. Same thing here. This is a choice of theirs, plain and simple. They can either comply with the WCB safety rules, take the new position offered, or find another job. Period.

Good thing they are not hippies. They would want to wear sandals and smoke ganja on the job.

Tim

I don't think you can grandfather avoidance of safety regs , this is safety not rascism thats just the card the special interest groups will play if you let them ,anytime things don't go their way its racism .

anytime I was caught doing something i shouldnt I was pretty happy if I was just told don't do it anymore

its all academic cuz the lumber industry is down the tubes

it is tough to wade through all this thinly veiled racial anger and see the actual arguments here

racial or religious anger?

Bottom line is that they were given a choice, Put a hard hat on or walk. They chose to walk. Pretty cut and dry.

How about Solid steel GANGSTA BANDANA for the G units working the bricks and rebars?

there are no brown people in surrey

Just Gangsters

Bottom line is that they were given a choice, Put a hard hat on or walk. They chose to walk. Pretty cut and dry.

Wow with this type of attitude no wonder why employees will get run over in the next 20 years.