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airplane vs conveyor belt

May 25, 2009, 7:01 p.m.
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Thread of the year again?

May 25, 2009, 11:21 p.m.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S377HwOthjo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ul_5DtMLhc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YORCk1BN7QY

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(Even after this, people are still going to argue about this…)

May 25, 2009, 11:26 p.m.
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lol @ bringing up the mythbusters again

do you think that tarp matched the speed of the wheels?

common man

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May 25, 2009, 11:49 p.m.
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Mythbusters used the proper question without the flawed wording about matching speed of wheels and shit.

And props to Ralph for making this threadz

that is the most reatrded thing ever even a retarded would say thats retarded

May 26, 2009, 7:53 a.m.
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OMFG, this again. The spirit of the question was to purposely leave out key information, like where do we measure the wheels speed, and laugh as we argue this for 100 pages. Personally I like to go with the conveyor matching the rotational speed of the wheels because it really isn't much of a brain teaser otherwise and you end up with what the myth busters tested.

May 26, 2009, 7:59 a.m.
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Mythbusters used the proper question without the flawed wording about matching speed of wheels and shit.

And props to Ralph for making this threadz

So mythbusters answered the age old question "Will a plane take off"?

May 26, 2009, 8:12 a.m.
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OMFG, this again. The spirit of the question was to purposely leave out key information, like where do we measure the wheels speed, and laugh as we argue this for 100 pages. Personally I like to go with the conveyor matching the rotational speed of the wheels because it really isn't much of a brain teaser otherwise and you end up with what the myth busters tested.

77 actually

May 26, 2009, 9:08 a.m.
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77 actually

That is if we finish today, but thanks to people like Gerewhore this thread has legs yet. :lol:

May 26, 2009, 9:11 a.m.
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77 actually

29 if you change your set up, and you are crazy not to change it.

May 26, 2009, 9:17 a.m.
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29 if you change your set up, and you are crazy not to change it.

:lol: That is why I said 100, I didn't want to confuse those behind the times.

May 26, 2009, 9:30 a.m.
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Mythbusters used the proper question without the flawed wording about matching speed of wheels and shit.

And props to Ralph for making this threadz

O I C

mythbusters got it right because they didn't answer the actual question but changed it so it was actually testable

riiiiiiiiight

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May 26, 2009, 9:34 a.m.
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imagine if you glued two helicopters together all backwards like?
omog

Ha Ha! Made you look.

May 26, 2009, 5:08 p.m.
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Let's assume for a minute that the "wheel's speed" is interpreted as the speed of rotation of the circumference of the wheel/tire.

Under these circumstances, does anyone actually think it would take off?

May 26, 2009, 5:27 p.m.
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who did this?

May 26, 2009, 5:34 p.m.
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Ok, I didn't read the 78 pages of this, so it's probably been answered well several times, but here is the answer:

In a "perfect world" with an infinitely powerful belt and no friction in the wheels:
1. Plane needs to move forward relative to the earth to take off.
2. As the plane starts to roll forward, the belt tries to keep speed with the wheels and ends up moving infinitely fast backwards.
3. There's no friction in the wheels moving infinitely fast so the plane takes off anyway.

In the real world:
1. Plane needs to move forward relative to the earth to take off.
2. As the plane starts to roll forward, the belt tries to keep speed with the wheels and ends up moving backwards at it's top speed.
3. There's little friction in the wheels compared to the belt's top speed so the plane takes off.

The plane takes off.

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