New posts

2013 - 2014 Canucks

Jan. 19, 2014, 12:22 p.m.
Posts: 14564
Joined: Dec. 16, 2003

Because your top guys have a strong probability of getting puck control off the draw, greatly outmatching the other team in skill and speed, generating scoring chances off the skill mismatch. When was the last time an enforcer fought(not Marchand sticking a Sedin) a teams star player? Ever notice that the superstars seem to only ever fight each other?

But yeah, getting into a pissing contest with the 3rd from last place team in the league, and squeezing out a shootout win, after getting steamrolled down south is smart hockey.

Whats impressive about Stocks career, (if we're going to just start throwing out stats) is the amount of PIMs he got in 2 seasons of the Q. Also the era of his junior and pro career, plus the area he played in wasn't conductive to(exclude QMJHL on this part) high scoring, wide open hockey

I wouldn't say it's so much them fighting the top line. For whatever McGratten's role is in the NHL, he has a reputation for being a standup and honest guy. I don't believe for a second he would try to fight them. Brute force body checks from 240lb enforcers are also what you don't need coming at the top line though. I don't think Torts had a choice, it's not worth the risk of further injuring an already battered team that's just starting to get healthy again. I think the sideshow between periods could have been done without, but there seems to be a bit of history there. I thought it was intersting that Bieksa pulled Westgarth away from the new kid so he didn't have to face an NHL heavyweight plug on his first shift. The hockey message boards seem to be full of Bieksa haters for not fighting him, I never understand why he takes so much abuse for choosing to generally stick to fighting guys in his own weight class. No need to have a skilled, tough 210lb player proving himself by fighting 240lb pylons. The new kid did pretty well in the end anyways. Sucks about all the misconducts though.

Jan. 19, 2014, 1:30 p.m.
Posts: 15019
Joined: April 5, 2007

Ejections are there to stop the endless line brawls from happening. Probably people are upset since Bieska went Smid instead of who he lined up with off the draw. Oh well, all parties are to blame on that one. Im sure Flames would've put SOB out there instead of Smid if they wanted a line brawl. Anyway, easy way to get the plugs out of the game early on.

Im surprised Kassian doesn't get more icetime, since hes a spaz just like the coach. Thought he was going to get 10 after the hooking/diving call

Heres a fun fact that is related to this week, last time the Canucks gave up 9 goals in a game, someone wasn't able to play hockey ever again…

Why slag free swag?:rolleyes:

ummm, as your doctor i recommend against riding with a scaphoid fracture.

Jan. 19, 2014, 1:41 p.m.
Posts: 2615
Joined: March 29, 2009

Seems odd that Garrison got a game misconduct and Sestito didn't, especially since Garrison was somewhat avoiding a fight for the first bit.

Jan. 19, 2014, 2:02 p.m.
Posts: 14564
Joined: Dec. 16, 2003

Seems odd that Garrison got a game misconduct and Sestito didn't, especially since Garrison was somewhat avoiding a fight for the first bit.

I think the way the rules are written, first guys to fight get fighting majors, any secondary fights get misconducts

Jan. 19, 2014, 2:49 p.m.
Posts: 7707
Joined: Sept. 11, 2003

When was the last time an enforcer fought(not Marchand sticking a Sedin) a teams star player?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxxpfIQ7n6s
Classless shit teams make classless shit moves. Calgary, like the Sabres, fits the mold.

As DaveM said, you don't need to fight anyone to rattle them or take then out of the game physically or mentally. Any coach would be glad to trade an opponent's 1st liner for a penalty/misconduct/ejection of a sometime-4th liner on his own team.

Jan. 19, 2014, 3:48 p.m.
Posts: 15019
Joined: April 5, 2007

As DaveM said, you don't need to fight anyone to rattle them or take then out of the game physically or mentally. Any coach would be glad to trade an opponent's 1st liner for a penalty/misconduct/ejection of a sometime-4th liner on his own team.

Oh, wow! Thank you for explaining the game of hockey to me.

Did that linesman have a gopro on though?

Why slag free swag?:rolleyes:

ummm, as your doctor i recommend against riding with a scaphoid fracture.

Jan. 19, 2014, 3:57 p.m.
Posts: 4297
Joined: June 1, 2009

But yeah, getting into a pissing contest with the 3rd from last place team in the league, and squeezing out a shootout win, after getting steamrolled down south is smart hockey.

I think Torts was cranky because he effectively got out-coached. He got pushed into a no-win position from a team that had no business doing it. He (quite easily) rattled a team that they had no business getting a point off of. They'll probably put a statue of the guy in front of the Saddledome.

Jan. 19, 2014, 4 p.m.
Posts: 2615
Joined: March 29, 2009

Calgary has nothing to lose in any game, the Canucks do. It's not out-coaching by Hartley when there's no consequence, it's just a dick move. That's what Torts was pissed about, Hartley is a dick who wouldn't even own up to his decision. He said that line got them a goal recently and so he thought they could do it again. Riiiight.

Jan. 19, 2014, 4:04 p.m.
Posts: 4297
Joined: June 1, 2009

Calgary has nothing to lose in any game, the Canucks do. It's not out-coaching by Hartley when there's no consequence, it's just a dick move. That's what Torts was pissed about, Hartley is a dick who wouldn't even own up to his decision. He said that line got them a goal recently and so he thought they could do it again. Riiiight.

Well, there is a consequence. Hes fighting for his job on a terrible team. He snuck out a point in a game that (on paper) he had no business sneaking out a point in. Plus, theres absolutely no reason why he has to own up to his decision. Every one knew why he did it. He knew he could rattle the Canucks by doing it. And he was right.

Jan. 19, 2014, 4:05 p.m.
Posts: 2615
Joined: March 29, 2009

Then don't lie about it, just say nothing.

Jan. 19, 2014, 4:37 p.m.
Posts: 3368
Joined: Dec. 10, 2002

And don't put a goon winger in to take the opening face-off and try to pretend that didn't go down exactly as planned.

It seemed pretty obvious that Sestito and Weise were the only ones interested in fighting when the puck dropped. All the Flames seemed pretty peppy though.

Torts is gonna pay for the BS between periods. I didn't mind the optics of it but he should show a bit more restraint.

"May a commune of gay, Marxist Muslim illegal immigrants use your tax dollars to open a drive-thru abortion clinic in your church."

Jan. 19, 2014, 5:21 p.m.
Posts: 2430
Joined: Oct. 23, 2004

I think the way the rules are written, first guys to fight get fighting majors, any secondary fights get misconducts

Yup thats how it works. Bieksa knew that and I think thats why he would have gone over to fight Smid instead of the goon after telling the goon to back off on the new kid. If Bieksa's going to get kicked out of the game hes smart to take one of their defencemen with him.
Also Hartley can start whoever he wants, so can Torts. To me, both coaches can justify who they started, this has happened before. Whats classless is the lame excuse Hartley gave for starting the goon squad.
Douche move to not own his actions IMO.

.

Jan. 19, 2014, 5:34 p.m.
Posts: 11911
Joined: June 4, 2008

Hartley's a straight up pindick.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is simply being an anti-fan.

Jan. 19, 2014, 6:54 p.m.
Posts: 14564
Joined: Dec. 16, 2003

PJ Stock was going full derp at 1st intermission and tried to continue on post game until Friedman cut him off :rocker:

Jan. 19, 2014, 7:30 p.m.
Posts: 33665
Joined: Nov. 19, 2002

I like Bieksa.

It is easy to dodge our responsibilities, but we cannot dodge the consequences of dodging our responsibilities.
- Josiah Stamp

Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race.
- H.G. Wells

Forum jump: