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2013 - 2014 Canucks

March 4, 2014, 3:12 p.m.
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i won't be surprised if gillis is gone at the end of the season regardless of whether they make the playoffs.

if they do get it it's going to be a quick exit anyway.

Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity ~ Seneca

March 4, 2014, 3:14 p.m.
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look back and the evidence is there, i just think the hope of a cup skewed people's vision. the team was not as strong as people thought. they definitely had some luck along the way as well.

Yup. And then when things didnt work so well the next year… it was time to do some liquidation because the players still had value and were not totally found out. Now they dont and they are.

Its too bad, because at the time, they probably could've brought in some really exciting names.

March 4, 2014, 3:14 p.m.
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if they do get it it's going to be a quick exit anyway.

yip

When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity.

When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion.

March 4, 2014, 3:14 p.m.
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look back and the evidence is there, i just think the hope of a cup skewed people's vision. the team was not as strong as people thought. they definitely had some luck along the way as well.

Not many teams make it to a cup final without a bit of luck.

Like just about everything in life, the highs probably weren't as high as they seemed, the lows not as low.

It's a bit silly to look back on a President's trophy winning, cup final making team and think "Yep…should've blown 'em up then." Should've done more, for sure…but I think if you're going to argue that the team wasn't as good as people thought then, you could probably argue that the team isn't as bad as people think now, as well.

March 4, 2014, 3:40 p.m.
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Not many teams make it to a cup final without a bit of luck.

Like just about everything in life, the highs probably weren't as high as they seemed, the lows not as low.

It's a bit silly to look back on a President's trophy winning, cup final making team and think "Yep…should've blown 'em up then." Should've done more, for sure…but I think if you're going to argue that the team wasn't as good as people thought then, you could probably argue that the team isn't as bad as people think now, as well.

i'm defnitely not saying they should have been blown up, but you did have the top players having career years and then prtety much disappearing in the playoffs. i think the team would be in a better place if the goalie situation had been dealth with differently, but that was a storm that started to brew when gillis gave luongo that contract. a lot of this mess began before the cup run, we're just seeing the effects of it now.

in the end it's a shame for hockey fans in this city.

Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity ~ Seneca

March 4, 2014, 3:47 p.m.
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Does any other team have a rookie goalie with only 25 NHL games as a starter? :eek:

March 4, 2014, 3:52 p.m.
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look back and the evidence is there, i just think the hope of a cup skewed people's vision. the team was not as strong as people thought. they definitely had some luck along the way as well.

I don't think they had luck, they were just not built for the way the playoffs were headed. The truth is that the 2011 SCF loss just gave a lot of people that didn't like the Canucks (which was a lot) a reason to claim they were not the real deal and they knew it all along despite coming within a game of the cup and winning the presidents trophy 2 years in a row (164 lucky games?). Even the 2012 playoff bump in the first round was not that indicative of the team's demise since they met the Kings on the most dominant playoff run in recent memory and certainly the greatest performance from an 8th seed of all time. It really wasn't until 2012-13 season that they lost their shine and stopped looking like a contender. Hardly the start of years of misery, but the lack of decent trades to match the strength in the west along with the goalie saga really started to take it's toll at that point.

I think most fans knew they were treading water at the start of this season and with the incredible performance of Hawks, Ducks, Sharks, etc trades were needed. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the known names are gone by next season and we'll see how it goes. The league is about to see a landslide of movement of players.

March 4, 2014, 3:55 p.m.
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The problem with the Canucks is that they don't have enough actual Canucks on their team. Heart is going to win in playoffs.

:canada:

March 4, 2014, 4:03 p.m.
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Anyone mention that lou and thomas are team mates yet?

I am not a fan of this trade. We have horvat for a centre and why not get huberdeau and some much needed youth sigh

I hope the boss is swift in a firing if there's to be one. Frightening to think what we'll get kesler if that happens.

protect tom mcdonald at all costs

March 4, 2014, 4:09 p.m.
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Does any other team have a rookie goalie with only 25 NHL games as a starter? :eek:

Flames Reto Berra only has 29 played

March 4, 2014, 4:25 p.m.
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Just to keep it interesting, Lack was the backup for Markstrom when they played on the same team in Sweden.

March 4, 2014, 4:28 p.m.
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Right now the thing I fear the most is turning on my radio or tv and accidentally having to listen to more than a half second of whatever Tony Gallagher is saying about this.

March 4, 2014, 4:40 p.m.
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I don't think they had luck, they were just not built for the way the playoffs were headed. The truth is that the 2011 SCF loss just gave a lot of people that didn't like the Canucks (which was a lot) a reason to claim they were not the real deal and they knew it all along despite coming within a game of the cup and winning the presidents trophy 2 years in a row (164 lucky games?). Even the 2012 playoff bump in the first round was not that indicative of the team's demise since they met the Kings on the most dominant playoff run in recent memory and certainly the greatest performance from an 8th seed of all time. It really wasn't until 2012-13 season that they lost their shine and stopped looking like a contender. Hardly the start of years of misery, but the lack of decent trades to match the strength in the west along with the goalie saga really started to take it's toll at that point.

I think most fans knew they were treading water at the start of this season and with the incredible performance of Hawks, Ducks, Sharks, etc trades were needed. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the known names are gone by next season and we'll see how it goes. The league is about to see a landslide of movement of players.

thinking luck in terms of puck bounces on the playoff run. the finals showed a team that wasn't always ready to show up - the canuck wins were close and the loses weren't.

either way, i'm not a nucks hater and while not a huge fan i'd rather see them do well than what their future seems to hold.

Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity ~ Seneca

March 4, 2014, 4:50 p.m.
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thinking luck in terms of puck bounces on the playoff run.

I'd put Burrows' knuckler to beat Chicago, and Bieksa's stanchion assisted goal against San Jose, in the lucky bounces category.

It will be interesting to see if game attendance drops significantly if they blow up the team.

March 4, 2014, 5:09 p.m.
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Rumour is Kesler was pulled out of warm up with a trade happening tonight…

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