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spoke lacing

June 7, 2006, 4:13 p.m.
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I recently noticed while wondering into the road bike section of my LBS that on alot of bikes the drive side uses a radial spoke patern, and the non drive side used a 2X pattern.

Why is that? I would think the drive side should have the 2X lacing for the torque.

Anyone care to explain the logic behind this?

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June 7, 2006, 4:17 p.m.
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I've also only heard of that in the opposite way - radial for non-drive weight savings, 2/3 cross on drive-side for rigidity.

Builder error or were there many (or factory-built) wheels that were like this?

-m

June 7, 2006, 4:22 p.m.
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As Matt said, non-drive side is usually radial while drive side is built with cross lacing (half-radial).

Sheldon Brown explains some of the reasons for building half-radial wheels here, as well as mentioning "wrong way half-radial" wheels:

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http://www.sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuild.html

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June 7, 2006, 4:54 p.m.
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nope. Its actualy not possible that it was builder error. Because

1, the hub is so that the drive side HAS to be radial, and the non-drive side HAS to be 2 cross.

2, the wheel came stock on a mid level bike. So it was machine built. Not that it matters though cuz like i said above, the hub is such that well, im repeating myself now. You get the idea.

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June 7, 2006, 4:55 p.m.
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Ah!!!!

here is a picture i just pulled straight off the shimano website. Look at the pair of wheels on the left. Not the close up.

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June 7, 2006, 4:57 p.m.
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More:

The WH-7801 Dura-ace wheelset:

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June 7, 2006, 4:59 p.m.
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actualy, i just thought, the reason they do that might be because they want to push the spokes out as far as possible for side-to-side rigidity, and maybe they found that having the radial spokes on the inside really isnt a huge deal.

Can anyone confirm?

EDIT:
Fuck, i feel like such a noob, thanks for the link sanrensho. I missed it the first time around

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June 8, 2006, 9:19 a.m.
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Marketing

June 8, 2006, 12:32 p.m.
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Marketing

:lol:

i hope that was joke

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