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Saiz arrested on doping charges

May 23, 2006, 1:45 p.m.
sanrensho
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Manolo Saiz, director of the Liberty-Seguros team (Vinokourov, ex-Heras), is reported to have been arrested on doping charges. What a freaking mess.

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/9907.0.html

This certainly doesn't help Vino's Tour bid this year. Any bets on when Team Phonak will get nailed? (The list of suspended Phonak riders includes Tyler Hamilton, Fabrizio Guidi, Santi Perez, Oscar Camenzind, Sascha Urweider.)

"The song of a bird…We used to ask Ennesson to do bird calls. He could do them. How he could do them, and when he perished, along with him went all those birds…"-Return from the Stars, Stanislaw Lem

"We just walk around, and sometimes we go out and dance, and then we listen to the environment."-Ralf Hutter, Kraftwerk

May 23, 2006, 6:12 p.m.
thewalrus
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Just wait until gene doping becomes common, if it isn't already… You can fly to Brazil for injections of stem cells.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en[HTML_REMOVED]q=gene+doping[HTML_REMOVED]btnG=Google+Search

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May 23, 2006, 9:16 p.m.
wallyjames
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Maybe I better take some of money off Vinoukourov. Saiz is a major part of the equation. First Heras, now Saiz. Spanish cycling is looking pretty deflated right now.

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

May 23, 2006, 11:12 p.m.
thewalrus
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And the #1 bet for this year's Tour, Basso, is coached by Mr 60% himself… Bjarne Riis.

"Bicycling is a healthy and manly pursuit with much to recommend it, and, unlike other foolish crazes, it has not died out."
- The Daily Telegraph (1877)

May 23, 2006, 11:57 p.m.
sanrensho
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I've said this before, but I lost all respect for Saiz after I saw him trying to "help" Beloki get up right after his big crash. Beloki had fractures in his elbow and broke his femur (hip), and his director is helping him stand up? What kind of sh*tty judgment is that?

"The song of a bird…We used to ask Ennesson to do bird calls. He could do them. How he could do them, and when he perished, along with him went all those birds…"-Return from the Stars, Stanislaw Lem

"We just walk around, and sometimes we go out and dance, and then we listen to the environment."-Ralf Hutter, Kraftwerk

May 25, 2006, 12:21 p.m.
sanrensho
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Maybe I better take some of money off Vinoukourov.

Better take off all of that money. There no longer is a "Liberty Seguros" team as we know it-the main sponsor pulled its sponsorship today, effective immediately.

The Spanish police also found a list of 200 riders linked with doping. Shit is about to hit the fan, folks.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2006/may06/may25news3

"The song of a bird…We used to ask Ennesson to do bird calls. He could do them. How he could do them, and when he perished, along with him went all those birds…"-Return from the Stars, Stanislaw Lem

"We just walk around, and sometimes we go out and dance, and then we listen to the environment."-Ralf Hutter, Kraftwerk

May 25, 2006, 8:18 p.m.
wallyjames
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Yep, this one is going to be bigger than Festina in 98. Maybe Basso _will _double just like Pantani did that year…

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

June 2, 2006, 1:56 p.m.
sanrensho
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Update. Phonak just suspended Botero and Gutierrez for suspected involvement in the Fuentes doping scandal. This after Gutierrez just finished 2nd in the Giro.

It's not like Landis gets much support from some of his teammates (Pereiro in particular). Maybe he should jump ship to back to Discovery for a year or two.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2006/jun06/jun02news3

"The song of a bird…We used to ask Ennesson to do bird calls. He could do them. How he could do them, and when he perished, along with him went all those birds…"-Return from the Stars, Stanislaw Lem

"We just walk around, and sometimes we go out and dance, and then we listen to the environment."-Ralf Hutter, Kraftwerk

June 2, 2006, 2:08 p.m.
Robot
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More here:

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/9947.0.html

"It's, like, so much fun."

June 2, 2006, 5:46 p.m.
thewalrus
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I guess the Kazakhs don't care as much about doping scandals? The ASO can still ban Saiz and Co. from le Tour on its own, without a decision from the Spanish cycling federation or UCI. What a mess this will be if the Kazakhs have invested a bunch of money to support Vinokourov, and he can't ride the Tour or Vuelta.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2006/jun06/jun03news

http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/9946.0.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astana-W%C3%BCrth_Cycling_Team

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"Bicycling is a healthy and manly pursuit with much to recommend it, and, unlike other foolish crazes, it has not died out."
- The Daily Telegraph (1877)

June 2, 2006, 8:52 p.m.
sanrensho
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What a mess this will be if the Kazakhs have invested a bunch of money to support Vinokourov, and he can't ride the Tour or Vuelta.

They probably have an escape clause that releases them from their commitment if the team doesn't race the Tour.

"The song of a bird…We used to ask Ennesson to do bird calls. He could do them. How he could do them, and when he perished, along with him went all those birds…"-Return from the Stars, Stanislaw Lem

"We just walk around, and sometimes we go out and dance, and then we listen to the environment."-Ralf Hutter, Kraftwerk

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