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Jan Ullrich

May 19, 2006, 2:29 a.m.
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What a stud! Anyone see the TT yesterday? He's riding the Giro to get in shape, and it really looked like it, until yesterday - clearly he's already in good form - we'll see how he does in the big mountains but maybe he got his preparation right this year and won't peak two weeks after the tour ends.

Jan winning the Tour this year, discuss.

May 19, 2006, 10:06 a.m.
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I was impressed. He did a Lance-put (nearly) 30 seconds into the next placed rider in a long TT.

And he did it without pulling out the big artillery-just a low spoke count wheel vs. deep dish aero wheel.

Still, all of it will be for naught if Der Kaiser cannot climb. I think it's a toss-up between Ullrich and Basso at the Tour, assuming that Basso finishes and wins the Giro. By burning some of his matches at the Giro, Basso is setting himself up for having that one horrendous day in the mountains where he bleeds a lot of time.

"The song of a bird…We used to ask Ennesson to do bird calls. He could do them. How he could do them, and when he perished, along with him went all those birds…"-Return from the Stars, Stanislaw Lem

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May 19, 2006, 5:47 p.m.
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Ullrich is still packin some beef around the middle, but it always seems that way in the spring and he is good to go by July. He's got the horsepower on the flats but can he climb? There will be attacks from many directions, not just Lance's boys.

Basso's Giro is going according to plan so far. He has built a buffer and can afford to be selective in which attacks he covers in the mountainous final week. Whether it's enough remains to be seen - and what will it cost him to make the effort? As you say, it could all mean that one bad day in the Tour.

My money's on Vinokourov for the Tour. One of the best DSs in the business, a purpose-built team, and a slow steady build up.

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

May 19, 2006, 9:08 p.m.
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I'm going to agree on Vinokourov for the tour. Anyone who saw his solo ascent of the Col du Galibier (stage 10 or 11?) in last year's tour knows he can climb nearly as well as Rasmussen. Rasmussen of course has no hope in the time-trials… But then, Virenque never destroyed the competition in the TT either. When you're going for the polka-dot jersey, you don't have any reason to. :D Vino is pretty decent in the solo TT, if not up to Armstrong standards.

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"Bicycling is a healthy and manly pursuit with much to recommend it, and, unlike other foolish crazes, it has not died out."
- The Daily Telegraph (1877)

May 20, 2006, 8:42 a.m.
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^ thats harsh. But I dont think Jans the man, Id love it to be floyd, how great would that be, but basso is probs the man. Boonen has been halling ass in the spring tho with some good results he is 2nd in protour as well.

May 20, 2006, 8:54 a.m.
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I thought yan ulrich was a midevel night.

May 26, 2006, 12:17 p.m.
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Looks like Jan isn't as fit as it appeared. He withdrew from the Giro during stage 19. Probably just before the nasty climbing started.

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May 26, 2006, 12:42 p.m.
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he's not that fat.
and even if he is, he's still doing pretty well for it and maintains youngest ever TDF winner i think?
if he would fucking train like a pro and party less in the off season, he would be winning everything. how can someone be that talented and let it slide every year?

Chirp

May 26, 2006, 12:52 p.m.
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he dropped out today but he was just doing it as a training ride anyways.nice place to train.

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May 26, 2006, 1:16 p.m.
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Apparently, he was complaining of back pain before pulling out today. Geez, first it's his knees, then his back… But he always seems to come back strong in July.

I say he wins a close one over Basso this year, then retires so he can blow up to Lemond-like proportions. I see him as an ideal product shill for a food product like Nutella.

How do you say, "Eat it straight out of the jar!" in German?

"The song of a bird…We used to ask Ennesson to do bird calls. He could do them. How he could do them, and when he perished, along with him went all those birds…"-Return from the Stars, Stanislaw Lem

"We just walk around, and sometimes we go out and dance, and then we listen to the environment."-Ralf Hutter, Kraftwerk

May 26, 2006, 1:57 p.m.
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Joined: Nov. 22, 2002

I say he wins a close one over Basso this year, then retires so he can blow up to Lemond-like proportions. I see him as an ideal product shill for a food product like Nutella.

How do you say, "Eat it straight out of the jar!" in German?

I'm not sure Basso will be that spent after the Giro… Although he's obviously in peak form right now… It'll be interesting to see if a wavering Basso can defeat a wonky-kneed, sore back Ullrich in Le Tour or if someone else can emerge and snatch the event away. And then Jan can retire and pimp the Nutella.

"It's, like, so much fun."

May 26, 2006, 2:11 p.m.
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I say he wins a close one over Basso this year, then retires so he can blow up to Lemond-like proportions. I see him as an ideal product shill for a food product like Nutella.

How do you say, "Eat it straight out of the jar!" in German?

Wouldn't be the first ex pro-cyclist to blow up to blimplike proportions. Charly Gaul, who was known as the Rasmussen of his day, got really fat later in life. He's the bearded guy on the left.

"Bicycling is a healthy and manly pursuit with much to recommend it, and, unlike other foolish crazes, it has not died out."
- The Daily Telegraph (1877)

May 26, 2006, 2:22 p.m.
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Joined: Feb. 22, 2003

How do you say, "Eat it straight out of the jar!" in German?

thanks for the laugh!

Dunno if Basso will win the TdF but he'll beat Jan- @ that level it's so mental since they're all killer fit. A dude coming off a Giro win has the mental edge over a guy who dropped out early. After being a bridesmaid for so long, I don't think Jan can make it back up to the altar.

May 26, 2006, 2:37 p.m.
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What a breath of fresh air this forum is.

I'm done with teen angst.

May 26, 2006, 3:04 p.m.
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It'll be interesting to see if a wavering Basso can defeat a wonky-kneed, sore back Ullrich in Le Tour.

Jan will be fine for the Tour. His knee problems are well-documented (probably due to extra early season lbs) but he's always OK come July. There's a lot less climbing than in the Giro, so we'll see.

I definitely see visions of baumkuchen and bratwurst dancing in Jan's head, becoming him on to one last shot at glory and retirement.

"The song of a bird…We used to ask Ennesson to do bird calls. He could do them. How he could do them, and when he perished, along with him went all those birds…"-Return from the Stars, Stanislaw Lem

"We just walk around, and sometimes we go out and dance, and then we listen to the environment."-Ralf Hutter, Kraftwerk

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