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Sugar vs. Fat - an interesting study...

Jan. 7, 2015, 11:16 a.m.
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The conclusions:

So, what were our conclusions? If you want to lose weight it will be much easier if you avoid processed foods made with sugar and fat. These foods affect your brain in a completely different way from natural foods and it's hard for anyone to resist eating too much.

And any diet that eliminates fat or sugar will be unpalatable, hard to sustain and probably be bad for your health, too.

Article here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2546975/One-twin-gave-sugar-gave-fat-Their-experiment-change-YOUR-life.html

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Jan. 13, 2015, 10:23 a.m.
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I remember reading about the mentioned effect of such food - your brain is sort of simply switched off, and that makes it hard to stop munching away.

And I think your brain can get addicted to processed foods, not only because of fat and sugar/sweeteners, but because of all the other nasty things as well - artificial flavorings, colorings, and other fun ingredients that do not have to be in there.

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Jan. 13, 2015, 10:35 a.m.
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I read that artical its very long and I found it very inconclusive, a set of twins were essentialy allowed to eat as much as they want of either a no fat or a no sugar diet so no portion control ?

Jan. 13, 2015, 7:17 p.m.
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The conclusions:

Article here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2546975/One-twin-gave-sugar-gave-fat-Their-experiment-change-YOUR-life.html

So, what were our conclusions? If you want to lose weight it will be much easier if you avoid processed foods made with sugar and fat.

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Jan. 13, 2015, 7:46 p.m.
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there's been some noise lately on the concept that not all calories are the same so that weight (fat) management is not a simple equation of calories in vs calories out. this idea is based on the different metabolic pathways different food sources travel and short-term studies have shown some benefits but also some negatives with certain nutrient restrictive diets.

the key thing to consider when looking at any sort of eating plan is whether that plan can be successfully maintained over the long term. typically, ultra low fat and ultra low carb diets both come up short in the longevity arena. for long term success, eating a diet rich in fresh whole foods that does not eliminate or minimize one particular macro-nutrient and is energy balanced (calories in vs calories out) will people the best chance of success.

to that end, the conclusion drawn in this article of avoiding processed foods is good, and familiar, advice to follow.

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Jan. 13, 2015, 8:30 p.m.
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This ain't rocket surgery. The only issue is that people want the results without having to put the effort into this.

Do you want to lose weight? Eat less than you are eating now until you lose weight. Don't eat more or you will weigh more.

Do you want to look like a sprinter? Eat less shit than you are eating now and do high intensity training.

Want to get stronger? Train with heavy weights.

Want to look like a marathoner? Stop eating until you lose weight.

Want to do the things you do? Keep doing the things you're doing to keep doing the things you like to do. If something is stopping you from doing that, fix that thing.

We should be having a discussion about what the baseline of aerobic and anaerobic ability you should have instead of what you look like in your skivvies.

Jan. 13, 2015, 9:24 p.m.
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We should be having a discussion about what the baseline of aerobic and anaerobic ability you should have.

done!

We don't know what our limits are, so to start something with the idea of being limited actually ends up limiting us.
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Jan. 15, 2015, 11:47 a.m.
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http://mic.com/articles/84521/japan-has-cut-obesity-to-3-5-in-a-controversial-way-that-wouldn-t-fly-in-america

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/what-s-the-secret-to-japan-s-slender-population-serious-eating-education-1.2894221?cmp=rss%3Fcmp%3Dfbtl[HTML_REMOVED]utm_content=buffer5547f[HTML_REMOVED]utm_medium=social[HTML_REMOVED]utm_source=facebook.com[HTML_REMOVED]utm_campaign=buffer

BTW, Japanese live longer

Jan. 15, 2015, 12:25 p.m.
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http://mic.com/articles/84521/japan-has-cut-obesity-to-3-5-in-a-controversial-way-that-wouldn-t-fly-in-america

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/what-s-the-secret-to-japan-s-slender-population-serious-eating-education-1.2894221?cmp=rss%3Fcmp%3Dfbtl[HTML_REMOVED]utm_content=buffer5547f[HTML_REMOVED]utm_medium=social[HTML_REMOVED]utm_source=facebook.com[HTML_REMOVED]utm_campaign=buffer

BTW, Japanese live longer

With respect to Japan, I would say it's the traditional diet combined with food education that accounts for low obesity. Other countries also have good food education (maybe not to the same extent) but higher obesity.

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