strength training discussion thread

Hi guys,

I have a biceps tendonitis, left shoulder, the weak shoulder.

Do you guys have any idea how to "work around" the issue?

I have done too many chin-ups, pull-ups and other stuff like db flyes that my left shoulder and biceps was not ready for.

Don't train through it. I took a year to fix a wicked case of tendinitis in my biceps/elbow. It was so bad picking up coffee mugs hurt.

Hi guys,

I have a biceps tendonitis, left shoulder, the weak shoulder.

Do you guys have any idea how to "work around" the issue?

I have done too many chin-ups, pull-ups and other stuff like db flyes that my left shoulder and biceps was not ready for.

OK, so I was diagnosed by my Dr. with "rotator cuff tendinitis". was pretty bad, hoisting a beer and sleeping was quite painful and certain lifts/moves at the gym were as well, lowering anything from overhead for example. Dr. sent me to see a rheumatologist (I was puzzled too, but anyhow this seems to be the type of person you go to for this) and I also saw my physio and my gym coach.

• My Dr. said "don't use the arm, the wife can carry the groceries". She said that it might be permanent, most of her patients don't improve. Scary!
• Specialist said "use it as much as you want, just don't trigger the pain". This guy is an ex-champion weightlifter in senior categories. He recommended pushups.
• Physio gave some exercises.
• Coach gave me some exercises. Remarkably similar the Physio's exercises.

Result: took perhaps 6 months or more, but I am basically fixed. Very happy about it. And I was able to keep up my overall exercise regime during.

What I take from this is the following: use the afflicted appendage as much as possible without doing the specific thing that triggers the pain. Keep mobility up, keep strengthening "around" the injury. This is not unlike my other recent learnings on other unrelated injuries. I am pretty convinced that rest is not the best answer all the time.

I think this is different than "training through it". More like "training around it". Or somethin'

I think this is different than "training through it". More like "training around it". Or somethin'

I would agree. For me, it hurt and I added more weight and just kept going thinking it would get better. It didn't.

My therapist told me to keep lifting but gave me work around.

Hi guys,

I have a biceps tendonitis, left shoulder, the weak shoulder.

Do you guys have any idea how to "work around" the issue?

I have done too many chin-ups, pull-ups and other stuff like db flyes that my left shoulder and biceps was not ready for.

Work on your cardio ….

Work on your cardio ….

And clean your room.

500 in the squat

I can't fathom a 500 lb squat. Sitting at 230 after a few months and a deload. 500 seems unreal

I can't fathom a 500 lb squat. Sitting at 230 after a few months and a deload. 500 seems unreal

It really isn't… the biggest thing holding you back is mental.

Imagine the craziest thing you've seen in person done on a mountain bike… you aren't that far away from that either.

The thing about strength training, there are no trips to the hospital if you do it right. You can't not get strong if you put the effort in, and it really is "free" relative to extreme sports.

If you want a 500 pound squat, let me know… I want a 600 pound deadlift and if I didn't injure myself all the time (falling down mountains) I'm certain I'd be there right now… As it stands, I'm not too far away.

Now if you want to be HUUUUUGE, the last thing you want is a 500 pound squat… you can be tiny and still bust that weight.

500lb squat , I spent a lot of time (15yrs) in the gym lifting with body builders , power lifters and a true Olympian weigh lifter and I can count on 1 hand how many guys I have seen do a true 500lb squat without a 55gallon needle full of roids or being wrapped up like a mummy with wraps and cranked out to the moon .

Hi guys,

I have a biceps tendonitis, left shoulder, the weak shoulder.

Do you guys have any idea how to "work around" the issue?

I have done too many chin-ups, pull-ups and other stuff like db flyes that my left shoulder and biceps was not ready for.

do whatever you want that doesn't cause you ANY pain or discomfort - during your workout or after. if it causes you trouble, stop doing it. you can still do bicep exercises for the other arm though and surprisingly some of that training benefit will carry over to the injured arm to prevent a large loss in strength.

http://breakingmuscle.com/strength-conditioning/unilateral-exercise-improves-endurance-on-both-sides

I'd love to do overhead squats, but my problem is that my garage only has an 8' ceiling, and being that I'm about 6'4" tall, I can't do the jerk or the snatch or really anything overhead unless I'm sitting. It's not ideal but it's my gym and I have almost everything I need, and no one yells at me if I do curls in the squat rack. I also already squat as low as I can, almost ass to grass but due to an old ankle injury I have had to modify my stance to be wider with my toes pointing out more.

Basically I want to get stronger and get back into shape, and eventually I'd like to hit 500 in the squat and deadlift (following 5/3/1 right now after a bit of a hiatus where I was following one of Greg Everett's oly lifting programs, when I had a 10' ceiling in my old garage). Eventually I'd like to get back into oly lifting, and having good strength will help that. I've also had back issues in the past, and I find that working the hamstrings, lower back, and hips keeps that at bay. The GM is an exercise that sucks, but I like how it makes me feel at the end of the day. Plus I had a gap in my program.

too bad about teh training situation but you're making do the best you can which is great. i'd choose stiff legged deadlifts over gm's but if they are working for you are you're smart enough to keep the weight in a safe range (for you) that's not going to put undue stress on your low back then have at er.

you can be tiny and still bust that weight.

yup, watched plenty of normal sized guys move some big numbers - it's all about how much your willing to sacrifice in the rest of your life to reach that goal. you're not going to squat 500lbs if you're diet isn't great, you're not getting enough sleep, you're partying hard every weekend and playing a bunch of other sports at the same time. once you start to get above 350 you have to dedicate yourself to it if you want to keep going.

500lb squat , I spent a lot of time (15yrs) in the gym lifting with body builders , power lifters and a true Olympian weigh lifter and I can count on 1 hand how many guys I have seen do a true 500lb squat without a 55gallon needle full of roids or being wrapped up like a mummy with wraps and cranked out to the moon .

That's great.

I have been going to the gym for about eleven years. I've been training for strength as opposed to gainz.

In that time, I've met one guy who can do triples with 595 that isn't that much bigger than me. He won't let me take a blood sample yet. I'm hoping that'll change soon so I can get to the bottom of whether he "worked for it" or not.

As for me, the only needles I've had almost made me faint and I've hit 405 relatively easily given my age and the amount I train.

I maintain if you want it, it's relatively not far away.

That's great.

I have been going to the gym for about eleven years. I've been training for strength as opposed to gainz.

In that time, I've met one guy who can do triples with 595 that isn't that much bigger than me. He won't let me take a blood sample yet. I'm hoping that'll change soon so I can get to the bottom of whether he "worked for it" or not.

As for me, the only needles I've had almost made me faint and I've hit 405 relatively easily given my age and the amount I train.

I maintain if you want it, it's relatively not far away.

I never touched any drugs when I lifted , and I trained up to 6 days a week for years training more for strength than size . My best was just over 400lbs and it took years and years of adding 5 lbs at a time to increase my weight . Best bench was just over 320lbs and dead lift was similar , and I was at a body weight of 170lbs .

The strongest person I lifted with was Guy Greavette he was clean at the time and tested regularly during competitions and was truly the strongest lifter I have seen in person . Dude squatted so often he had a huge thick callus on his neck and his rear delts from the bar .

I never touched any drugs when I lifted , and I trained up to 6 days a week for years

My biggest gains came when I dropped to three days a week.