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Our food is killing us

Dec. 1, 2023, 9:14 p.m.
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Wild article on the Tyee about how processed food is having significant negative impacts, not only on us but the planet as a whole as well.

Couple of choice quotes to whet the appetite. UPF = ultra-processed foods

"In just the last decade, nutrition scientists have begun to question whether most of the food we buy and consume is really food at all. Their answer: No, it’s not, but it drives an economy that exploits us from the cradle to an early grave."

"The average cost of insulin in Canada is US$12 per unit; in the United States, it’s US$98.70, the highest in the world. (In Turkey it’s just US$2.64.) So the growth of UPF-driven diabetes has been a bonanza for pharmaceutical companies."

"So UPF damages the environment in its production, malnourishes and sickens its consumers and thereby creates demand for expensive and hazardous “cures” to remedy UPF-caused conditions. As well, it boosts demands for health services from dentistry to palliative care. From a corporate point of view, UPF is an ideal cradle-to-grave investment."

https://thetyee.ca/Culture/2023/11/30/How-Do-We-Rebuild-Our-Eating-Habits/

We don't know what our limits are, so to start something with the idea of being limited actually ends up limiting us.
Ellen Langer


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Dec. 6, 2023, 3:39 p.m.
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*yawn*

This is not ground breaking. This has been going on for 30 plus years.

Dec. 11, 2023, 3:56 a.m.
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Well, you can remind the author that people, in general, have been living and eating differently for the past hundred years than they did for several million years in the savannah. Moreover, the current population level is not sustainable in the environment we live in. However, we are still living. I heard a lecture from an anthropologist suggesting that in the future, we may switch to insects as a protein source on a mass scale because the conventional sources won't be sufficient for everyone

Dec. 16, 2023, 10:13 p.m.
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I am surprised Tungsten hasn't come on and posted whichever conspiracy sources around this.

Dec. 12, 2024, 11:11 a.m.
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Wow, this article really hits home. It’s crazy how much of our food is processed without us even realizing the bigger picture. I’ve been trying to shift more toward natural food lately, and it's honestly been eye-opening. Last month, I made a huge batch of roasted root veggies with some fresh herbs and quinoa, and I could immediately feel the difference—more energy, no midday crashes. I’ve also been doing some research on food’s environmental impact, and it’s wild how much better fresh, whole foods are for both our health and the planet. A few years ago, I had a health scare and realized I wasn’t fueling my body properly.


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Dec. 15, 2024, 8:23 a.m.
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Posted by: Endurimil

*yawn*

This is not ground breaking. This has been going on for 30 plus years.

I would argue even longer, maybe in the 1950s and 1960s in the US with the advent of the tv dinner. Cheap carbs, cheap meat, cheap chemicals and additives that make the food taste even better. Now chemicals are almost everywhere, with me being highly intolerant to everything phosphate in food, well, just going out for a nice dinner is sometimes akin to Russian roulette.

Dec. 16, 2024, 8:44 a.m.
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I have just started reading the book. Fascinating and terrifying. Yes it's been going on for decades, but how much do people really understand about it? Obviously not enough to call for change.

Dec. 16, 2024, 9:03 a.m.
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Hey Squint, Id love to hear your thoughts once you've finished it. And yes, while it's true UPF has been around for a while, the choices being made by consumers have shifted a lot during those times. People are not only eating more calories compared to 4 or 5 decades ago, but most of that is coming from refined grains, sugar and fats/oils. From what I've seen there is a strong correlation between the change in our food supply and our health. 

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2016/12/13/whats-on-your-table-how-americas-diet-has-changed-over-the-decades/

https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2021/october/ultra-processed-foods.html

Dec. 17, 2024, 3:35 p.m.
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Fortunately, we have RFK jr. to save us...

Dec. 17, 2024, 10:41 p.m.
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Russian bots?  US bots?  Elon bots?  Whats going on?

Dec. 18, 2024, 2:51 a.m.
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Posted by: Squint

I have just started reading the book. Fascinating and terrifying. Yes it's been going on for decades, but how much do people really understand about it? Obviously not enough to call for change.

I have no time at the moment to read that book, there is tons more to read (exam papers, anyone?) and I have a very good book about UPF and chemicals by a German author, unfortunately. But I definitely keep it on my reading list.

I am often surprised myself how bad the choices are we as humans make most of the times, from nutrition to enertainment to the environmental mess we are in and politics, sometimes I am really surprised that we as a species rule the planet.

Dec. 26, 2024, 4:48 p.m.
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High fructose corn syrup is a big contributor. Don't discount all the food colouring and preservatives, which are there aplenty. Fast food....do I have to say any more?

I get a feed once in a while on FB about beach shots in the 70's and there is not a fat person in sight. As someone whom has been fit all their life (but worked at it) I realize that you are what you eat. But the lazy, sedentary lifestyle today, where in the US obesity is the number one cause of preventable death (all factors included) overtaking smoking, which is saying something. 30% of the US population is either morbidly obese or obese. Not just fat or pleasantly plump.

Even worse, the food industry is no different than any other; how to get people to buy the products. Gambling comes to mind on how to market itself. Food has taken notice. High fat, high salt, high sugar makes for a great "hit". And perfectly legal. In fact, it is more expensive to eat healthy than to eat fast food. Not good. And once you are sick with either diabetes, or any other ailment, the medical system steps in with medications to help......generating more revenue and profit. If only the issue was noticed at the start.......correlation or causation. I think the latter.

And with the generation we have today we have ADHD, autoimmune disorders and autism, all at much higher rates than when I was a kid (b. 1972).  I went to an elementary school where no one had peanut allergies (they never banned PBJ).  Never had anyone with ADHD or autism.  I believe it is not vaccines but diet.  This is the only variable that goes across all spectrums.  To have a bottle of Coke as a kid was a big deal, and I never had coffee until my teens.  Today, drinks loaded with sugar and caffeine (and labelled as health product, energy drinks) can be had by anyone, and especially the young.  This would have never happened when I was a kid.  I had to sneak a bottle of Coke when I could afford it.  Caffeine was out of the question.  Today, it is a norm for all of us and younger ones especially whom don't need any stimulation.  I worked at a sports-fishing resort in my university years and those outside of the PNW commented, routinely, how they found us all "caffeine addicts".  That was the 90's.

And yet, in this time, we have ebikes to remove any pretence of cardio fitness or exertion, food delivery services to bring stuff to your door rather than taking a 10 minute walk to get it. I wonder how many actually make a choice to walk to get where they are going rather than use the car for a 2 minute ride when the 20-30 minute walk would do so much good.

You reap what you sow, and as a society we have not planted well, and by design. All for profit. But then something is gotten for cheap on the easy is held in contempt and I see this issue only getting worse over time. Participaction came up in the 70's and may seem corny now but we need it more than ever. Unless the idea is to have fewer healthy people. After all, you have no medical industry unless you have sick people to "cure". And you get them sick by what they eat......


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