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Trailer hitch Bike tray rack- Advice

June 21, 2016, 1:59 p.m.
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Most vehicles have a specified Tongue weight. I cant remember what my old 4runner was but my 95 pound rack with 4 bikes equalled about 250 pounds. This was within spec from what I remember. Google it would be my suggestion.

Its not the vehicle that has a tongue weight, but the hitch itself. Class I (anything 1 1/4") has a 200lb weight limit. Class II (most 2" hitches used for racks and light towing) have a ~300lb weight limit. Class III ~600lb. Not sure where the amount of torque put on the hitch is factored in as the weight shifts outwards (ie one bike vs 4 bikes). You can safely assume that any rack capable of carrying 4 bikes will be ~50lbs and then each bike will be ~30lbs.

June 21, 2016, 2:06 p.m.
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Its not the vehicle that has a tongue weight, but the hitch itself. Class I (anything 1 1/4") has a 200lb weight limit. Class II (most 2" hitches used for racks and light towing) have a ~300lb weight limit. Class III ~600lb. Not sure where the amount of torque put on the hitch is factored in as the weight shifts outwards (ie one bike vs 4 bikes). You can safely assume that any rack capable of carrying 4 bikes will be ~50lbs and then each bike will be ~30lbs.

Honestly it all got confusing when I was looking to install. Basically the v6 and v8 runners had different tongue weight limits I would guess because of the different weight engines. Now if the v8 had a rating of 650 pounds then you could run a class 3 I believe.

June 21, 2016, 6:02 p.m.
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I have a Kuat and like it a lot.
I mostly run it in 2 bike mode, as both my wife and I were dropping it down a lot to out the dog in the car. Also, I get a bit nervous about folks rear ending it when it sticks way out there (it's happened while parked, bent the work stand).
I check the main pivot bolt frequently as there's a sweet spot that keeps it tight and pivots smoothly.
I add a strap for four bike mode.
I upgraded to a 2" class III (or IV) which is crazy for an element, but it stiffened things up A LOT in comparison to lower rated hitches.

If u were in the market id buy a Yakima/Thule option and flog it every two years or work towards a 1UP piece by piece as they look amazing. Rebuildable, modular, high quality and the height change between trays and ability to be run as a roof rack would be appreciated.
Disclaimer: I haven't used a 1UP one but I've creeped on them thoroughly in parking lots and really pestered their owners with questions.

June 22, 2016, 7:22 a.m.
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Talked to 1up.

I would recommend our 2" 2-bike carrier in silver. $529 shipping will be an additional $75
If you have any more questions, please don’t hesitate to email or call us.
Thanks,
1UP USA.com LLC | 1005 Commercial Drive | Dickeyville, WI 53808
Ph 608.568.7261 | customerservice@1upusa.com

75.00 extra to ship to Canada.

600.00 US plus tax. Pretty expensive but looks worth the money. $250-$300 for trailer hitch. Over a grand all in. OUCH

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June 24, 2016, 9:39 a.m.
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I just got one of these.. RockyMounts Split Rail

So far I'm really impressed.

Jon-boy.

June 24, 2016, 10:38 a.m.
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Raxter with the 2-bike extension.

June 24, 2016, 5:39 p.m.
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Over on PB the new Thule 4 tray rack is ~569 USD. 1Up isn't that much more.

Why slag free swag?:rolleyes:

ummm, as your doctor i recommend against riding with a scaphoid fracture.

June 24, 2016, 6:23 p.m.
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Over on PB the new Thule 4 tray rack is ~569 USD. 1Up isn't that much more.

You are comparing a Thule 4 tray rack to a 1up 2 tray rack with that pricing. A 4 tray 1up will run you closer to $1000 USD.

July 1, 2016, 9:43 a.m.
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Anyone spending $600 for a 2-bike rack is either insane, or has way too much money on their hands….

Pick up one of these from MEC. http://www.mec.ca/product/5018-825/swagman-xtc-2-bike-xc-dual-receiver-hitch-rack/?Ns=p_min_sale_price[HTML_REMOVED]h=10+50258+50259[HTML_REMOVED]f=10+50259

I've had one on my wrx for 4 years. Multiple trips to Utah and all around BC; we probably have [HTML_REMOVED]20,000 kms on it, with 2x bikes on it the entire time. Never had a single issue. Only downside is that is presses down on the frame vs the wheel, so you can get a little bit of rubbing on your frame. Best fix for that is to make sure its super tight. No movement = no rubbing.

July 1, 2016, 10:20 a.m.
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The other downside is that it can crush your top tube of your lightweight carbon road bike.

July 2, 2016, 12:01 a.m.
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Anyone spending $600 for a 2-bike rack is either insane, or has way too much money on their hands….

Pick up one of these from MEC. http://www.mec.ca/product/5018-825/swagman-xtc-2-bike-xc-dual-receiver-hitch-rack/?Ns=p_min_sale_price[HTML_REMOVED]h=10+50258+50259[HTML_REMOVED]f=10+50259

I've had one on my wrx for 4 years. Multiple trips to Utah and all around BC; we probably have [HTML_REMOVED]20,000 kms on it, with 2x bikes on it the entire time. Never had a single issue. Only downside is that is presses down on the frame vs the wheel, so you can get a little bit of rubbing on your frame. Best fix for that is to make sure its super tight. No movement = no rubbing.

I have a 2 bike swagman g4 on a stock golf and I hit the ground with it all the time coming out of parking lots. They increased the offset on the g10 but I would keep that in mind with any tray style racks.

July 2, 2016, 8:43 a.m.
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I have a 2 bike swagman g4 on a stock golf and I hit the ground with it all the time coming out of parking lots. They increased the offset on the g10 but I would keep that in mind with any tray style racks.

I have the swagman Chinook, no issues with grounding out on my Mazda3 and the hitch is super low on that car.

Fraser Valley Mountain Bikers Assoc.

July 2, 2016, 10:09 a.m.
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Anyone spending $600 for a 2-bike rack is either insane, or has way too much money on their hands….

Pick up one of these from MEC. http://www.mec.ca/product/5018-825/swagman-xtc-2-bike-xc-dual-receiver-hitch-rack/?Ns=p_min_sale_price[HTML_REMOVED]h=10+50258+50259[HTML_REMOVED]f=10+50259

I've had one on my wrx for 4 years. Multiple trips to Utah and all around BC; we probably have [HTML_REMOVED]20,000 kms on it, with 2x bikes on it the entire time. Never had a single issue. Only downside is that is presses down on the frame vs the wheel, so you can get a little bit of rubbing on your frame. Best fix for that is to make sure its super tight. No movement = no rubbing.

I've had a couple of friends who tried these out, and ended up getting rid of them. The top tube clamp is a terrible idea, and will cause rub no matter how tight you crank it down. I also found them very unstable, and they don't allow for fine tuning of bike position if the two bikes you have happen to interfere with each other on the rack. Two of the four straps also snapped off within a couple of months of use. I'm sure they work for some people and situations, but it isn't a rack I'd recommend. My friends ended up buying twice to get a better rack.

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