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SC vs TC forks ???

June 13, 2006, 1:13 a.m.
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I was just wondering while reading the article on the RockShox forks for 07… if the SC forks have really improved on the technology side - why don't Dhillers use them as well??
What are the advantages/disadvantages - I am thinking about a new fork (next spring, tho) and am currently using a Junior T. Now i am collecting ideas/input first….

Thanx for your help.

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June 13, 2006, 8:03 a.m.
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the stiffness of a DC has not been achieved by SC's yet

brokezors

June 13, 2006, 8:35 a.m.
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In a nut shell

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June 13, 2006, 9:55 a.m.
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Totem is 6 lbs and single crown ….Boxxer World Cup is 6.1 lbs and dual crown.

I think the choice is quite easy (although I am not going to state which one I would choose).

June 13, 2006, 10:02 a.m.
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Single crowns will never be as light or stiff as dual crowns so they will never be the fork of choice for downhill racers.

June 13, 2006, 11:30 a.m.
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Single crowns will never be as light or stiff as dual crowns so they will never be the fork of choice for downhill racers.

as light? they already are :) As stiff? That I will agree with you on, although the 36-series is getting pretty close!

dear DW,
since you got like a million bucks now, can i borrow $2850 for a Revolt frame?

thanks,
steve

June 13, 2006, 11:51 a.m.
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What 8 inch single crown is as light or as stiff as a 8 inch world cup.

June 13, 2006, 11:55 a.m.
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you didnt say 8", you just said "Single crowns will never be as light or stiff as dual crowns", which certainly isnt true for the light part…

dear DW,
since you got like a million bucks now, can i borrow $2850 for a Revolt frame?

thanks,
steve

June 13, 2006, 11:59 a.m.
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I wonder if years down the road we will look back on long travel SC forks the way we did on velcro shoes and say …. "it seemed like a good idea at the time?". Time will tell.

June 13, 2006, 1:32 p.m.
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long travel single crowns (like [HTML_REMOVED]5") definitely have their place but, no, they'll never replace dual crowns.

One thing that sorta made me go "huh?" was the sentence in the rock shox article that said there was no noticeable ride difference between the 888rc2x and the Totem. I can't quite swallow that. I'll bet if you really push those forks to their limit you'd notice a difference

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June 13, 2006, 1:36 p.m.
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Sc's wcould never ever be stiffer. Like how ever stiff they made one imagine if they just took the same fork and add a top crown and longer tubers, stiffer.

June 13, 2006, 1:43 p.m.
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At the last World Cup race Kovarik was on single crown forks. I think Mick Hannah was riding some Totems on his judge too.

To be honest on the north shore I've not noticed a lack of stiffness going from my Boxxers to some Shermans. I think if you're a strong rider that rides fast rought trails and does some big moves then sure, but for the majority of us having a stiff long travel single crown fork is better, especially for the turning circle benefits.

Jon-boy.

June 13, 2006, 1:50 p.m.
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it makes you wonder…
most of the bending occurs on the cantilevered part of the beam (the sliding portion of the stanchions), which is why fork manufacturers are making larger and larger diameter stanchions (and steer tubes).

the only thing the double crown would do is reduce/eliminate the torsion at the crown, which must be the largest source of flex in a SC fork.
so if you make your single crown burly enough, you could match the stiffness of the DC. but such a burly single crown would drive your fork weight up to, oh, say 6lbs? or more? and then you flip the weight/stiffness comparison between the two styles.

seems like the trade-offs in the SC/DC binary system are less and less about weight/stiffness and more about riding style, turning radius, tricks and knee clearance.

Chirp

June 13, 2006, 2:11 p.m.
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For the same weight, a single crown can never be as stiff/strong as a dual crown… thats why racers dont use them.

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June 13, 2006, 2:35 p.m.
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And for those of us that don't care so much about weight… a 6lb single crown will suit me fine. Also it means that the weight of the fork sits lower which in turn gives a lower CoG.

Jon-boy.

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