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Remote riding - do you ride with supplementary communications?

Jan. 6, 2016, 1:50 p.m.
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Yup, the 90's called and want their text entry/keyboard interface back.

You don't want to be typing out long messages on this thing.

pair it with your phone and type using the app. also works well as a back up GPS.

Jan. 6, 2016, 2:18 p.m.
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Also note that both of these devices aren't fail safes and shouldn't be your primary mode of getting out of trouble.

Yep, batteries can fail. Or if you crash at the right angle could damage devices.

I make sure I text at least one person with my route and expected return time while within coverage. If I don't text back once I'm off the hill, they know where to start looking.

Goes back to the old pre tech advice.

Jan. 6, 2016, 2:47 p.m.
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BIG parts of BC have NO cell coverage.]

Hence my edit. If you're riding solo somewhere where there is no coverage, you definitely need a backup device. For me, I'm never far out of service, so texting the trails I am riding and ETA on return while in coverage works for me. And I know pretty much all the places I get coverage on Fromme, so I try to stick to those when riding solo.

Jan. 6, 2016, 3:44 p.m.
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if i'm going out for a ride alone, i tell my wife where i'm going and about when i expect to be back. i figure/hope that if i'm not back or haven't checked in within a reasonable timeframe, she'll send a banana cream pie after me

i also subscribe to the biggles philosophy of remote riding: dial it back!

"Nobody really gives a shit that you don't like the thing that you have no firsthand experience with." Dave

Jan. 6, 2016, 4:03 p.m.
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Maps aside, Im "No Service" on 85% of Cypress even just above the highway with Bell and an iPhone 6. Im spotty service on the NS below the highway. I barely get service at my house in Caulfeild!

I wonder if there is an issue with your phone?

Bell's map says you should be getting coverage:


Jan. 6, 2016, 4:26 p.m.
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Look at that donut hole on Cypress if you zoom in more. I feel that my "No Service" area is bigger than what they show but Im surprised that they have the resolution to show this no service area. There are a fair number of trials in that area.

And while they show coverage, its barely coverage on my phone. It will show LTE most of the time but then, boom, signal gone. Every call I have in the Caulfeild area will get dropped if Im on for more than a few minutes.

Anyways, Im just debating if it makes sense to carry an alternative given that my signal on Cypress is so poor, or non-existent, and Im alone. InReach looks like a nifty gadget. Hell, even a portable HAM walkie talkie could be a good idea if there is a repeater within reach.

Jan. 6, 2016, 7:32 p.m.
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Joined: April 5, 2007

Do it for Rogers but focus on my area a little more CraigH!

Why slag free swag?:rolleyes:

ummm, as your doctor i recommend against riding with a scaphoid fracture.

Jan. 6, 2016, 9:54 p.m.
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Do it for Rogers but focus on my area a little more CraigH!

I don't have the software on my home laptop to do quick little screen captures, you'll have to do your own zooming in:

Jan. 6, 2016, 10:05 p.m.
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I don't have the software on my home laptop to do quick little screen captures, you'll have to do your own zooming in:


I think I need to head up Mt. Steele to see if I get better coverage there than at my place :lol:

Why slag free swag?:rolleyes:

ummm, as your doctor i recommend against riding with a scaphoid fracture.

Jan. 7, 2016, 6:42 a.m.
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Joined: Nov. 18, 2012

Do it for Rogers but focus on my area a little more CraigH!

how was rogers even an option

You know you went to far when even Tungsten thinks your a Jack Ass.

Jan. 7, 2016, 9:24 a.m.
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Joined: Sept. 19, 2010

What made you switch from Spot to Delorme?

It took me many posts on many different forums to finally get somebody with both to do side-by-side testing, and when they finally did, the Inreach dramatically out-performed the SPOT in terms of getting a satellite fix, and getting messages out from under heavy tree canopy or in steep terrain. That was what convinced me. The 2-way comm is nice-to-have, but ultimately as long as the outgoing SOS gets out, I didn't really care about that. However, once I was shown convincingly that the Inreach does actually transmit more reliably, it was a no-brainer.

Once I had both myself, I also did the side-by-side test and confirmed the same thing. Inreach is significantly better at transmitting positions under non-ideal conditions. In the middle of a glacier or the middle of a desert, either one works great. If you are curled up in a ball under a tree on the north side of a steep local mountain, the Inreach will have a much better chance of getting the word out.

Also, Inreach can actually be quite a bit cheaper for monthly plans if you are diligent about suspending it when you aren't using it. Takes 2 minutes - log into the website, hit the "suspend" button, then sync through USB. Cost is only $4.95/month when you aren't using it. I activate mine only when I plan to be out of cell coverage and end up paying the same or less as my old fixed-rate annual SPOT service.


March 3, 2016, 3:06 p.m.
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March 8, 2016, 11:37 p.m.
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Garmin acquires Delorme

Let's hope this means regular garmins will at some point come equipped with two-way communications, or at minimum that the Inreach is given a more user-friendly interface. Of course this may make both the new Garmin and Inreach I just bought last year obsolete. But I am probably ok with that.

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