Pot stiring question

650 makes sense for small men and ladies who want a road bike to fit properly ;)

Or for a Tri Geek.

More challenging?

I've spent a lot of money to make them less challenging. If I want more challenging, I'll go back to my 1.5inch elastomer front fork on a hardtail with the seat up.

Challenging, 29ers don't turn as tight as a 26er.

So your saying you prefer a paved bike path then.

So your saying you prefer a paved bike path then.

Na - they close CBC in the winter.

29ers do not have a larger contact patch. If one compares the same diameter and construction tire say a 2.1 Nevegal single wall 26 and 2.1 Nevegal in a 29 at the same psi the contact patch is exactly the same size. It is a different shape though. The 29 er will be narrower, but longer. It's simple physiscs.

You're missing some key points here. In a perfect, circular world, a round object only touches a surface at a single point. With tires, we're dealing with a hoop that change shape when weighted. A 29" wheel has a larger contact patch when weighted by the rider.

Na - they close CBC in the winter.

checks local cable

Nope, sadly they don't close da CBC for winter.

You're missing some key points here. In a perfect, circular world, a round object only touches a surface at a single point. With tires, we're dealing with a hoop that change shape when weighted. A 29" wheel has a larger contact patch when weighted by the rider.

Not possible. It's a question of displacement. With a nevegal 26 X 2.1 and 26 X 25 at 30 psi you will have the same area contact patch. Basic physics brother.

Since I can't read minds, to you how do they suck for mtb?

mtb = "mountain" biking.

Call when onterrible gets some real mountains.

You're missing some key points here. In a perfect, circular world, a round object only touches a surface at a single point. With tires, we're dealing with a hoop that change shape when weighted. A 29" wheel has a larger contact patch when weighted by the rider.

Say this was true…. Which would probably mean your rims are made of plastic or broken, but lets say its true.

What exactly is the advantage for this? And gains in cornering or braking are basically void.

Added rolling resistance is the only attribute I can see.

Really? Why is that?

If 26" is great for X and 28" (29'r) is great for Y then wouldn't 650b be great for inbetween X and Y?

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Not to mention that 650b is marketing GOLD. 29ers require new frame designs and new forks (new magnesium castings for lowers are expensive, especially in a limited market) but 650b will already clear in tonnes of forks and frames on the market.

All many companies have to do to offer a 650b bike is to change the spokes (longer), rims (larger), and tires (to fit rims) on the 26" bikes they are already making and WHAM their 26" bike is now a 650b.

Essentially making a 650b bike won't cost anymore then a 26" bike and it gives marketing something to talk about.

It rolls over things better then a 26" but without the heavy weight, lower durability and slow acceleration of a 29'er

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650b is stupid because, unlike a 29" wheel, it's almost totally indistinguishable from a 26" wheel. Come on, it's like a 2cm difference in diameter

mtb = "mountain" biking.

Call when onterrible gets some real mountains.

Ooops, I screwed up. I'm usually the one :swearing: that Blue is not a fucking mountain.

650b is stupid because, unlike a 29" wheel, it's almost totally indistinguishable from a 26" wheel. Come on, it's like a 2cm difference in diameter

we've been importing Stan's No-Tubes into the UK for many years, and have sold quite a few sets of the Stan's 29'er Flow rim built into wheelsets with King and Hope hubs for 29" riders

the only thing with 29" is that its going to always be heavier, and the wheel weaker due to bigger rims, bigger tires and longer spokes than an equivalent 26" setup?

If I hold the Stan's 26" Flow rim and the Stan's 29'er Flow rim in my hand, you can actually feel the weight difference

I wonder how much trade-off there is between the added weight of the 29" wheel and its ability to roll-over obstacles better and hold speed than the smaller 26"?

Exellent points about the 700c and 29er rims being pretty close in size.

No, 700c and 29er rims are not "pretty close" in size (assuming you mean diameter). They are IDENTICAL in size (622 etrto). 29er rims are just wider, and sometimes are disc-specific.

They just had to call them 29" wheels so that mtb retards wouldn't think they were running "sissy road bike parts."

29"ers, hybrids? What is the difference?