NSMB - 2023 - Hardtails Leaning Against Stuff Thread

Although pucker moments are frequent for me and my less than moderate skill-set I must say code brown has been avoided so far.  I've probably jinxed myself now.

Since we are talking about poop. I have to say those times I have been unfortunate enough to run over dog poop on the trails I've been very happy to run fenders even in the summer.

I love doggos but when I run over or step in shite I want to hunt down the owner and rub crap in their face.  I once stepped in some when riding clipless and somehow it sure oozes around an spd cleat like I never imagined possible.  :(

I don't dislike dogs in general, but being chased, nipped, barked at aggressively and getting their shit on me when I am on the trails makes me not a fan of seeing them when I am in the forest. Ultimately it's the owner's fault, but the situation is so rampant it's becoming normalized and there is not much recourse unless you end up in the ER.

I was thinking about poop a lot during my ride across England. There are signs everywhere (I think it's hilarious that they say "No Fouling,") about dog poop, but then there are colossal piles of horse poop in the middle of the trail. Foul indeed.

Posted by: TristanC

I was thinking about poop a lot during my ride across England. There are signs everywhere (I think it's hilarious that they say "No Fouling,") about dog poop, but then there are colossal piles of horse poop in the middle of the trail. Foul indeed.

Shit is shit and this point is purely academic, but dog shit (and all other meat-based faeces) are significantly more 'foul' than plant-based shit. 

I'll see myself out.

Posted by: TristanC

I was thinking about poop a lot during my ride across England. There are signs everywhere (I think it's hilarious that they say "No Fouling,") about dog poop, but then there are colossal piles of horse poop in the middle of the trail. Foul indeed.

I don't mind horse poo - there's plenty of it in SE England as well - but it's grass based and generally avoidable and weirdly I like the smell of it.  Dog / Fox poo is the nasty stuff.  Hence running a front pooguard in summer which doubles as a mudguard in winter.

Posted by: GiveitsomeWelly

Posted by: TristanC

I was thinking about poop a lot during my ride across England. There are signs everywhere (I think it's hilarious that they say "No Fouling,") about dog poop, but then there are colossal piles of horse poop in the middle of the trail. Foul indeed.

Shit is shit and this point is purely academic, but dog shit (and all other meat-based faeces) are significantly more 'foul' than plant-based shit. 

I'll see myself out.

You know your shit.

Following up on the mysterious box I posted a few weeks ago : )...

Have been building this up here and there over the last 3 weeks (including my first wheel build). Just had covid and not yet up for full rides so went for a shorter ride just to test her out, I couldn't deal with just looking at it sitting there anymore.

First time on full 27.5, I had been on the Moxie with a mullet. Was a short ride of taking it easy so it's too early for conclusions other than easier to toss around and slower than the moxie when pointed downhill due to having less momentum of the wagon wheels once rolling. Did seem quite planted while not being as harsh as thought it maybe with that beefy rear triangle.

Magic ratio is 32x20 on eliptical CR.

That’s real nice! Any issues with the magic ratio? Considering playing with this on my Rootdown which I think has similar chainstays.

No issues really, it is probably just a hair more snug than ideal, but will wear in a bit and be perfectly magic! It's not binding but the pedals won't keep spinning when I throw them backwards on the stand like they do with proper tension on my sliding dropout frames. I can add a tensioner later if needed, but may be more inclined to put gears on here and keep the moxie as the SS due to the momentum carrying wagon wheels. Maybe something like a 7 or 8 speed with a small largest gear, I am used to standing for climbing anyways.

I am sure the rootdown has longer stays (these are 419mm). FWIW, I could not get this length to snap together with chain pliers as the rollers would clock a little under the force required. Adding 2 links was too long for my tensioner (surly singulator picked up at the local bike non-profit for $5) in push down mode, it was slipping. Push up setting was hitting my cog since chain was so loose and it needed to be rotated so much upwards. I ended up slipping it off the chainring bottom enough to use the pliers and then rotated the ring to pop it back on all the way around. This worked but I more easily could have done so with the wheel removed and just mounted it afterwards. I have had the wheel off since several times and I don't really have to pull back or put any extra force into getting the axle through, maybe because the chain ring is at its shortest position when I happened to be doing that.

I think a SS rootdown would be a hoot, sounds a lot like my moxie!

I am in central Virginia, USA.  This was taken on observatory hill which is part of UVA campus and I can ride to it from house so its good for mid week rides.

https://www.trailforks.com/region/observatory-hill-17238/

Just down the street from o-hill is a slightly larger trail system that is much more flowy called ragged mtn.

Where are you, guessing BC?  I've always appreciated the local nuggets when visiting up that way!

Awesome! The Rootdown has 420 chainstays, so maybe that extra 1mm will make it easier to get the chain together? Either way, would be fun to try at some point. Really wish it had rockers or sliders, but it's a big bike with a big fork, so I get it. n+1 :)

The Rootdown has 420 chainstays, so maybe that extra 1mm will make it easier to get the chain together?

Actually that will make it slightly worse, I think given how tight this one is at 419 it would likely be too tight at 420 with this ratio, but you could certainly try.  You can play with different cog or chainring sizes too, but a needing a tensioner isn't that big a deal either.  Also the wheelsize plays into your gain ratio which is more important anyways.  A 20T cog on a 27.5 wheel is like having a 21T on a 29 wheel.  If SS is new to you I would recommend a something easier to pedal up hill than 32/20 on a 29er, depending on your terrain.  I started at 32/22 on my Sirius 29er, then went 32/20 when fitness was up, liking 32/21 now on 29 rear.

I would have guessed the rootdown to have longer stays than 420, that's short for a 29er, which is great.  Yes, the n+1 bug is real!