NSMB - 2023 - Hardtails Leaning Against Stuff Thread

Posted by: Tremeer023

Posted by: Flatted-again

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Posted by: boomforeal

Posted by: velocipedestrian

Got enough spares for a SS rigid experiment? It's traditional by now.

Well, it does have sliders. But the bb is pretty low; I’d need a rigid fork with a ~540mm a2c

Or shorter cranks?

I've looked into this a bit, Waltworks seems like the only option I've found. Gets expensive quick and makes more sense to find a used fox 36/lyrik/etc. instead.

Using a 510/500 a2c rigid fork on the honzo has the more unfortunate effect of steepening the seat angle into close to unrideable territory on anything except straight up and down.

Here's an extra 10mm:

https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/products/wolf-tooth-lower-headset-cup-extender-zs-zero-stack

Stack four of those and a whisky LT fork and boom! 540 a2c!

Posted by: Flatted-again

Stack four of those and a whisky LT fork and boom! 540 a2c!

Or 7 of these! https://canecreek.com/product/6mm-52-40mm-alloy-crown-race-baa1078k/

Posted by: Tremeer023

Posted by: Flatted-again

I've looked into this a bit, Waltworks seems like the only option I've found. Gets expensive quick and makes more sense to find a used fox 36/lyrik/etc. instead.

Using a 510/500 a2c rigid fork on the honzo has the more unfortunate effect of steepening the seat angle into close to unrideable territory on anything except straight up and down.

Here's an extra 10mm:

https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/products/wolf-tooth-lower-headset-cup-extender-zs-zero-stack

This will get you all the way!

Extended Crown Race - MTB Tools

I've got 25 mm on top of my Bird fork and it'd work great on the RSD fork as well.

Just back from a Cumberland trip that was _very_ kid focused.  So much more to see there.

Squamish is dry.  Valleycliffe is running incredibly well.

A quick lunch rip to the ocean today.

First ride for the eldest kid on the BFeMax this morning so as promised…

Unsurprisingly feels loads bigger than previous bike but overall he’s pretty stoked.

Posted by: DanLees1978

First ride for the eldest kid on the BFeMax this morning so as promised…

Unsurprisingly feels loads bigger than previous bike but overall he’s pretty stoked.

Beautiful!

I just discovered the term “down country”.  I guess it’s lighter weight and less travel but slack geo as well.  For example norco optic.  I’ve probably been living under a rock and missed the thing by a couple years now. 

Any hard tails that would be considered “down country?”

Now that I think of it I suppose almost any hard tail with slack hta etc could be considered “down country “ if it’s not too heavy?

I wouldn't get too hung up on down country.  Thought of by many as a synical marketing attempt to shoehorn another new category of bikes between xc and trail.  Basically an aggressive xc bike.  Not sure I could tell the difference personally. 

It was peddled by Mike Levy at Pinkbike (but apparently someone at Rocky Mountain thought of it years ago).

Levy was half jokingly pushing it and it stuck.  For me it's just a short travel trail bike.  But then I describe enduro bikes as long travel trail bikes.  

Hardtails are hardtails and impervious to marketing wankery.

I think of it as “short travel trail”, like a shorter travel version of a Stumpjumper, which is a ridiculously small amount of differentiation.  Geometry more like a trail/enduro bike than a XC race bike. 

I think the Optic, and my Wildcat fit the bill - I ride em the same way I would ride a 150/135ish travel bike, it’s just snappier cause it’s a 140/120 travel bike.

Great for mellower terrain and for a livelier feel/active riding style in gnar.

I would probably prefer an “up enduro” bike anyway.

I fitted flat bars on the Scrambler, I think it's an updownhill bike now.

M9000 XTR shifter + M5100 11-speed Deore for min/max. And I found out Shimano makes Ultegra flat-bar cable brake levers! The trails are soaked round here but I got her out for two mixed surface rides, and she rips.

There’s some really nice looking bikes on here!

Mine is now a bit less pretty as my fear of more broken digits (I’m a bassist) has finally coaxed me into fitting handguards. The Moxie also now has bigger discs for easier wheel / parts swaps with my Levo. If it wasn’t for the lack of gears this would be a fully enduro hardtail!

It was one of those rides where the mud doesn’t stick to your tyres but instead coats the rider from head to toe!