Posted by: fartymarty
Vik - great photos and good to see you back on a full boucer. Do you have any photos of your friends bike. It looks to be steel and full sus therefore interesting.
A Wildwood Cycles custom steel singlepivot frame he built up.
He was laying waste to the desert trails with it and smiling most of the time. I'll point him at this thread and see if he'll fill in the details.
Very nice. More details would be good.
Posted by: Vikb
Posted by: fartymarty
Vik - great photos and good to see you back on a full boucer. Do you have any photos of your friends bike. It looks to be steel and full sus therefore interesting.
A Wildwood Cycles custom steel singlepivot frame he built up.
He was laying waste to the desert trails with it and smiling most of the time. I'll point him at this thread and see if he'll fill in the details.
I like that frame. Though all single pivot frames kind of copy each other with a few variations.
The differences are in the subtle little details like the curved down tube.
I bet if you tested a few steel single pivots they would all ride slightly differently - like HTs.
Posted by: Vikb
And HTs don't just ride slightly differently one another. To a casual observer all of them are pretty much the same.
Exactly - slightly maybe a slight understatement...
Posted by: Vikb
And HTs don't just ride slightly differently one another. To a casual observer all of them are pretty much the same.
Yep, they will all feel slightly different and ride differently . Just observing that all the steel single pivot frames aside from variations in geometry and how any tubes might be bent look similar.
Posted by: Endurimil
Posted by: Vikb
And HTs don't just ride slightly differently one another. To a casual observer all of them are pretty much the same.
Yep, they will all feel slightly different and ride differently . Just observing that all the steel single pivot frames aside from variations in geometry and how any tubes might be bent look similar.
They do. I would love to see someone (maybe like John Watson at Radavist) do a test on half a dozen very similar looking steel frames. His Murmur / SST / Darco observations were interesting.
The Wildwood is sweet. Initially I was looking for a panacea to the ever steepening seat angles because I like to ride my bikes everywhere not only drive it to a trailhead. For that use case and my body geo I just couldn’t handle the super steep seat angles. I was also tired of the gear acquisition syndrome I’m at the age where I know what I wanted and was ready to settle down. I’ll have this rig until it breaks or I die.
Geo is roughly:
Head Angle: 65
BB Drop: 35
Chain Stay: 435
Stack: 635ish with 551 atoc
Reach 450ish
Effective Top Tube: 615ish
Effective Seat Angle: 75ish
Looks nice. So its very very close to a Starling Murmur with a slacker seat tube?
Very nice geraldooka! Thanks for posting.
Posted by: geraldooka
The Wildwood is sweet. Initially I was looking for a panacea to the ever steepening seat angles because I like to ride my bikes everywhere not only drive it to a trailhead. For that use case and my body geo I just couldn’t handle the super steep seat angles. I was also tired of the gear acquisition syndrome I’m at the age where I know what I wanted and was ready to settle down. I’ll have this rig until it breaks or I die.
Geo is roughly:
Head Angle: 65
BB Drop: 35
Chain Stay: 435
Stack: 635ish with 551 atoc
Reach 450ish
Effective Top Tube: 615ish
Effective Seat Angle: 75ish
I’ve never eaten something that colour I didn’t enjoy.
Nice bike!
Geraldooka - very nice indeed.
What travel do you have?
While it looks like a Murmur the numbers are quite different. I imagine it would ride similar to my Solaris Max but with suspension whereas my Murmur is definitely a bigger slacker bike albeit with 140mm travel.
Bike looks great, love that geo
Great write up @Vik. Sounds like a great trip. What areas were you ride in?
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