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NSMB 2023 Full-Suspension Thread

April 5, 2023, 1:13 p.m.
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Very nice.  More details would be good.

April 5, 2023, 2:39 p.m.
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Posted by: Vikb

Posted by: fartymarty

Vik - great photos and good to see you back on a full boucer.  Do you have any photos of your friends bike.  It looks to be steel and full sus therefore interesting.

A Wildwood Cycles custom steel singlepivot frame he built up.

http://www.wildwoodcycles.ca/

He was laying waste to the desert trails with it and smiling most of the time. I'll point him at this thread and see if he'll fill in the details.

I like that frame. Though all single pivot frames kind of copy each other with a few variations.

April 6, 2023, 12:27 a.m.
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The differences are in the subtle little details like the curved down tube.

I bet if you tested a few steel single pivots they would all ride slightly differently - like HTs.

April 6, 2023, 6:03 a.m.
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And HTs don't just ride slightly differently to one another. To a casual observer all of them are pretty much the same.


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April 6, 2023, 8:01 a.m.
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Posted by: Vikb

And HTs don't just ride slightly differently one another. To a casual observer all of them are pretty much the same.

Exactly - slightly maybe a slight understatement...

April 6, 2023, 10:18 a.m.
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Posted by: Vikb

And HTs don't just ride slightly differently one another. To a casual observer all of them are pretty much the same.

Yep, they will all feel slightly different and ride differently . Just observing that all the steel single pivot frames aside from variations in geometry and how any tubes might be bent look similar.

April 6, 2023, 10:36 a.m.
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Posted by: Endurimil

Posted by: Vikb

And HTs don't just ride slightly differently one another. To a casual observer all of them are pretty much the same.

Yep, they will all feel slightly different and ride differently . Just observing that all the steel single pivot frames aside from variations in geometry and how any tubes might be bent look similar.

They do.  I would love to see someone (maybe like John Watson at Radavist) do a test on half a dozen very similar looking steel frames.  His Murmur / SST / Darco observations were interesting.

April 6, 2023, 2:20 p.m.
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The Wildwood is sweet. Initially I was looking for a panacea to the ever steepening seat angles because I like to ride my bikes everywhere not only drive it to a trailhead. For that use case and my body geo I just couldn’t handle the super steep seat angles. I was also tired of the gear acquisition syndrome I’m at the age where I know what I wanted and was ready to settle down. I’ll have this rig until it breaks or I die.

Geo is roughly:

Head Angle: 65

BB Drop: 35

Chain Stay: 435

Stack: 635ish with 551 atoc

Reach 450ish

Effective Top Tube: 615ish

Effective Seat Angle: 75ish

April 6, 2023, 2:46 p.m.
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Looks nice. So its very very close to a Starling Murmur with a slacker seat tube?

April 6, 2023, 3:34 p.m.
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Very nice geraldooka! Thanks for posting.

April 6, 2023, 4:52 p.m.
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Posted by: geraldooka

The Wildwood is sweet. Initially I was looking for a panacea to the ever steepening seat angles because I like to ride my bikes everywhere not only drive it to a trailhead. For that use case and my body geo I just couldn’t handle the super steep seat angles. I was also tired of the gear acquisition syndrome I’m at the age where I know what I wanted and was ready to settle down. I’ll have this rig until it breaks or I die.

Geo is roughly:

Head Angle: 65

BB Drop: 35

Chain Stay: 435

Stack: 635ish with 551 atoc

Reach 450ish

Effective Top Tube: 615ish

Effective Seat Angle: 75ish

I’ve never eaten something that colour I didn’t enjoy. 

Nice bike!

April 7, 2023, 1 a.m.
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Geraldooka - very nice indeed.  

What travel do you have? 

While it looks like a Murmur the numbers are quite different.  I imagine it would ride similar to my Solaris Max but with suspension whereas my Murmur is definitely a bigger slacker bike albeit with 140mm travel.

April 7, 2023, 8:55 a.m.
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Bike looks great, love that geo

April 7, 2023, 8:59 a.m.
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Great write up @Vik. Sounds like a great trip. What areas were you ride in?

April 7, 2023, 9:54 a.m.
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Did someone say single pivot?

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