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NSMB 2023 Full-Suspension Thread

Oct. 20, 2023, 9:11 a.m.
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That dash looks WAY better in raw than the yellow! Do you plan on clear coating, regularly touching it up, or just leaving it up to mother nature. I had a raw Slayer in the just-before-27.5 days, and it didn't look perfect for very long.

Oct. 20, 2023, 2:03 p.m.
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Appreciate the positive feedback, especially since the stripping process was not exactly trivial haha. 

I'm curious to see how it holds up. 

I wiped on some of that  ceramic paint treatment that gets great reviews as a long lasting hydrophobic coating when used on cars. 

My hope if that will seal it up a little and increase the amount of time between touchups, while not being something like clear coat where once it starts to chip and scratch there's not.much you can do to refresh the surface. 

Getting it from freshly stripped to a brushed finish was actually pretty easy, so I'm hoping it's a twice a year thing where I spend an hour refreshing it and recoating. 

I have a new set of stickers inbound but I'm not convinced they add anything to the look, I may leave it sticker less which will also make refreshing easier.

Oct. 20, 2023, 2:33 p.m.
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I vote for stickerless!

Oct. 20, 2023, 2:35 p.m.
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Posted by: Kenny

Some more German metal.

This is my same crossworx Dash 29 that was yellow. I sent the shock in for service and fork in for warranty (the Ohlins is a loaner) and while I was waiting I stripped it down. Totally changed the look, for the better IMO. 

Nice! 

But... Another German alu bike with space for a bottle but no bosses?

Oct. 20, 2023, 2:39 p.m.
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looks  sick! i'm a big fan of raw / polished alu. i've always found they don't need much in the form of care; maybe a bi-annual buff with some mothers. 

i wish my (factory polished) meta didn't have a clearcoat; getting pretty scratched up & there's nothing i can do about it - apart from stripping the clear, of course, which is a pita. maybe a winter project. 

what you use to strip yours, btw? a not so painful / not so toxic solution seems to be elusive, alas.

Oct. 20, 2023, 3:30 p.m.
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Posted by: velocipedestrian

Posted by: Kenny

Some more German metal.

This is my same crossworx Dash 29 that was yellow. I sent the shock in for service and fork in for warranty (the Ohlins is a loaner) and while I was waiting I stripped it down. Totally changed the look, for the better IMO. 

Nice! 

But... Another German alu bike with space for a bottle but no bosses?

The bosses are under the top tube, you can just see them in the last pic.  Holds a huge bottle and tool setup, just hadn't reinstalled for the pic. ;)

Oct. 20, 2023, 3:34 p.m.
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Posted by: xy9ine

looks sick! i'm a big fan of raw / polished alu. i've always found they don't need much in the form of care; maybe a bi-annual buff with some mothers.

i wish my (factory polished) meta didn't have a clearcoat; getting pretty scratched up & there's nothing i can do about it - apart from stripping the clear, of course, which is a pita. maybe a winter project.

what you use to strip yours, btw? a not so painful / not so toxic solution seems to be elusive, alas.

I used smart strip initially, it comes in a green tub, can be had at Rona or Canadian Tire as well I think, plant based and non toxic.

It works well just needs time and you have to slather it on thick.

I slathered it on and then put the rear triangle in one garbage bag and the front in another and left it for a day.

My lame electric pressure washer took 80% of it off.

Then I did it a second time and got to about 95%.

The last 5% the smart strip would not touch. Then I I tried ez strip just on a whim and it did the rest.

If I were doing it again I might try ez strip first.

Both of them are non toxic, my hands actually like the stuff, maybe too much information, but they were oddly smooth and soft after.

The fact that they're non toxic is really what made the project palatable.

Edit: also my frame was powdercoated not painted which is notorious for being difficult to strip.


 Last edited by: Kenny on Oct. 20, 2023, 3:35 p.m., edited 1 time in total.
Oct. 20, 2023, 3:53 p.m.
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The raw frame looks great. Nice work.

Oct. 20, 2023, 4:05 p.m.
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https://www.ct1.com/our-products/peel-tec-paint-just-simply-peels-away/

Heard peel tec is gre

Oct. 20, 2023, 6:11 p.m.
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Posted by: Kenny

Posted by: velocipedestrian

Posted by: Kenny

Some more German metal.

This is my same crossworx Dash 29 that was yellow. I sent the shock in for service and fork in for warranty (the Ohlins is a loaner) and while I was waiting I stripped it down. Totally changed the look, for the better IMO. 

Nice! 

But... Another German alu bike with space for a bottle but no bosses?

The bosses are under the top tube, you can just see them in the last pic.  Holds a huge bottle and tool setup, just hadn't reinstalled for the pic. ;)

Oh nice. It's just mine then. I'm back to faffing about with strapping little pouches and miniature Fidlock bottles.

Oct. 21, 2023, 12:14 a.m.
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Posted by: [email protected]

I vote for stickerless!

100% stickerless.  Let the frames form do the talking.

Oct. 21, 2023, 3:35 a.m.
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Posted by: fartymarty

Posted by: [email protected]

I vote for stickerless!

100% stickerless.  Let the frames form do the talking.

+1. It doesn't look like a Session.

Oct. 21, 2023, 8:06 a.m.
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Posted by: thaaad

I had a 2021 27.5 Sight and it was great. 

Of all the FS bikes I've owned in the past decade or so I would probably put that one at the top of the list for the riding I like to do. Would buy again if my desire to try new things wasn't so high. It just immediately felt "like a bike" when I jumped on it and that comfort just never went away,  the bike always felt really natural and comfortable on anything I put it through. 

I don't hit big jumps, I'm not much of a fit climber anymore, and my technical skills have really fallen off the past few years due to lack of riding so take my experience with a grain of salt lol

I really like the Range it's just a lot of bike to pedal and I don't have the legs  I used to. Love it coming down though but never really rode it after getting the Fluid since the fluid just pedaled better.

I've been eyeing up the Highlander 2 for a while, or the new Druid. Big bucks though. Don't want to go any bigger than 160 if I'm on a 29er again, bikes just get too big.

Interesting post. I can related on many points. I am not a strong climber, don't do big jumps, and my tech skills for big moves has fallen a bit, due to mainly riding a hardtail in the past 2 years.

I picked up an Optic frame that I will build this winter (will post pics in the 2024 thread). I see you tried most Norco trailbikes...have you tried the Optic and do you have comments on it? 

I will still have a big 27.5 F/R enduro bike, but I hate being overbiked on pedally rides. I have bigh hopes the Optic will be great for this. :)

Oct. 21, 2023, 11:19 a.m.
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Posted by: Kenny

Appreciate the positive feedback, especially since the stripping process was not exactly trivial haha.

I'm curious to see how it holds up.

I wiped on some of that ceramic paint treatment that gets great reviews as a long lasting hydrophobic coating when used on cars.

My hope if that will seal it up a little and increase the amount of time between touchups, while not being something like clear coat where once it starts to chip and scratch there's not.much you can do to refresh the surface.

Getting it from freshly stripped to a brushed finish was actually pretty easy, so I'm hoping it's a twice a year thing where I spend an hour refreshing it and recoating.

I have a new set of stickers inbound but I'm not convinced they add anything to the look, I may leave it sticker less which will also make refreshing easier.

Those little concentrated bottles of gel-like ceramic coatings with like 80 percent+ SiO2 content last incredibly well. Then use the "waterless carwash" diluted ceramic spary stuff for touch ups, it just builds up right on top of the base coat. Magic solution for preserving a surface, wish I'd known years ago.

Just went through a hands-on education while my professional detailer buddy was helping me coat my truck.

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Flip, my Optics been a great light weight trail bike for the year and half I've had it. Pedally bike that won't kill you on the hard stuff, unlike most pedally trail bikes I've ridden...

Lately can't figure out the derailleur hanger arrangement, derailleur seems rotated too far back when installed correctly, when I rotate the little stop tab on the XT derailleur out of the way and just let the derailleur sit metal to metal on the derailer hanger tab it's aligned correctly...but then it eats hangers.

That and maybe stop by John Henry and ask about having them shim your pivots to align perfectly if needed. Better bearing longevity apparently, not that I've had any problems thus far.


 Last edited by: Hepcat on Oct. 21, 2023, 11:21 a.m., edited 1 time in total.
Oct. 21, 2023, 12:10 p.m.
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Thanks Hepcat!

I can't wait to try the Optic. Should be good!  I will start by overforking it a bit with a Lyrik 150mm and I'll see how it goes. This is the fork I currently have on my hardtail.

That's weird about the hanger. Does yours have the UDH? I have the stock hanger and an NSB one as well. I'll pay special attention to see if there is something strange going on. 

Thanks also for the head's up about the pivots. JH is >5000km from me, so I'll seek help locally, if needed. :)

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