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NSMB - 2015 – Mountain Bike Thread (full suspension)

Jan. 23, 2015, 3:01 p.m.
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Is this from real-world long(ish) term testing on all three of these forks? Or is it based on paper and interwebz raves/rants?

Just curious. I like what I've read about the Pike for sure and the charger damper. But the last version of the Lyrik is a really rewarding fork with pretty good small hit compliance and big hit capacity despite not have the latest tech. It's also a proven workhorse in a robust body.

yes, i am intrigued with the new marzocchi 350CR as well. seems like they're back in an awesome way. weight is comparable to my current 2011 Fox 36 setup. but if the new 2015 fox 36 is so much way smoother than it used to be i wonder if the weight savings of the new 36's would be a better choice over the marzocchi system. has anyone ridden on either of them?

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Jan. 23, 2015, 3:07 p.m.
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Is this from real-world long(ish) term testing on all three of these forks? Or is it based on paper and interwebz raves/rants?

Just curious. I like what I've read about the Pike for sure and the charger damper. But the last version of the Lyrik is a really rewarding fork with pretty good small hit compliance and big hit capacity despite not have the latest tech. It's also a proven workhorse in a robust body.

Nothing long term but the service interval is 200 hours and having a local service center is a huge plus. I have/had a Lyrik with an Avy cartridge (basically zero maintenance/custom tuned) and the Fox36 is a way better feeling/performing fork. A stock Lyrik can't come close to a Fox36. The Pike has numerous reports of spiking on high speed chatter but I've never ridden one at speed so I can't comment. I've been a long term RS guy but the Fox36 is the real deal.

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Jan. 23, 2015, 3:48 p.m.
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Is this from real-world long(ish) term testing on all three of these forks? Or is it based on paper and interwebz raves/rants?

Just curious. I like what I've read about the Pike for sure and the charger damper. But the last version of the Lyrik is a really rewarding fork with pretty good small hit compliance and big hit capacity despite not have the latest tech. It's also a proven workhorse in a robust body.

I've ridden both long term. They are both equally good in their own right. You will be happy with either choice.

Pike is damped softer and a bit more active and the current 36 is damped firmer, even at wide open on the compression settings but also feels very composed on the faster rougher trails. I would say that the Pike removes low-speed chatter better but the 36 handles high-speed movement better. For most users, the setting they choose will have the forks ride the same: rebound, compression, air spring progressiveness. Both forks are very adjustable.

I like the 15mm maxle on the Pike but the 20mm thru-axle on the 36 is stiffer at the expense of speedy/easy wheel maintenance. The 36 might just take the win because the axle system is convertable between 15 and 20mm.

The travel adjust Pike can't use the air tokens to increase progression in the air spring, which is one of the main tuning features that makes it ride so well, so I would stick with the solo air versions.

One thing that impressed me most about my Pike is that I put 12 months of riding on it without a service and it felt great until I took it off. It never leaked at the seals, and the lowers seemed (I didn't measure…) aligned perfectly which probably helped keep the fork running smooth.

Almost 1 year on my 36 now, and it's been good as well. No problems to report.

Jan. 23, 2015, 5:50 p.m.
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I've ridden both long term. They are both equally good in their own right. You will be happy with either choice.

Pike is damped softer and a bit more active and the current 36 is damped firmer, even at wide open on the compression settings but also feels very composed on the faster rougher trails. I would say that the Pike removes low-speed chatter better but the 36 handles high-speed movement better. For most users, the setting they choose will have the forks ride the same: rebound, compression, air spring progressiveness. Both forks are very adjustable.

I like the 15mm maxle on the Pike but the 20mm thru-axle on the 36 is stiffer at the expense of speedy/easy wheel maintenance. The 36 might just take the win because the axle system is convertable between 15 and 20mm.

The travel adjust Pike can't use the air tokens to increase progression in the air spring, which is one of the main tuning features that makes it ride so well, so I would stick with the solo air versions.

One thing that impressed me most about my Pike is that I put 12 months of riding on it without a service and it felt great until I took it off. It never leaked at the seals, and the lowers seemed (I didn't measure…) aligned perfectly which probably helped keep the fork running smooth.

Almost 1 year on my 36 now, and it's been good as well. No problems to report.

How many air tokens did you use in your pike? Most riders I talk to say 2 is the magic number. Also, did you notice that the fork rode better with a couple clicks of compression as opposed to wide open?

Jan. 23, 2015, 6:43 p.m.
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…and now it's the 2015 fork thread

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Jan. 23, 2015, 7:30 p.m.
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:D:beer:

…and now it's the 2015 fork thread

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Jan. 23, 2015, 7:42 p.m.
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…and now it's the 2015 fork thread

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better than an E-bike or Fatbike thread?

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Jan. 23, 2015, 7:53 p.m.
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better than an E-bike or Fatbike thread?

Well that is true. But a kick in the crotch beats an E-bike thread!

Jan. 24, 2015, 1:20 p.m.
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How many air tokens did you use in your pike? Most riders I talk to say 2 is the magic number. Also, did you notice that the fork rode better with a couple clicks of compression as opposed to wide open?

Tried 1, 2 and 3. I settled on 2.

Jan. 25, 2015, 11 a.m.
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This is mine, will be bringing it to Whistler for the summer this year.

Might try [HTML_REMOVED] pick up an Advanced Team when we're out there to swap the parts onto, just to satisfy my inner tart.

Hopefully it will survive the 3 months we will be there, as it's my only bike!

Blur 4X - Sunday Factory.

Jan. 25, 2015, 1:37 p.m.
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This is mine, will be bringing it to Whistler for the summer this year.

Might try [HTML_REMOVED] pick up an Advanced Team when we're out there to swap the parts onto, just to satisfy my inner tart.

Hopefully it will survive the 3 months we will be there, as it's my only bike!

Very nice… and thank you for getting this thread back on track!

Jan. 30, 2015, 9:25 a.m.
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thought I'd repost my late, last season purchase as its very significant (lol) being that I've actually stayed with a bike for longer than 6 months, proof that this bike is the bike for me. For those that don't know I've been a bit of a bike whore these past 2 years, buying and selling every 4-6 months. Glad that's over before I had to seek rehab.

I have made some upgrades:

Fox 36 Float 170mm with Magenta Decals…(Magenta/Pink) just so my friends can have a laugh at me
Straitline Stem, because the Atomic blue is so rad, wish the Amp pedals weren't crap as I'd have those as well
Spank Oozy pedals with Ti axles
New Enve Decals …keeping it fresh
Fox Float CTD rear shock…just love the way this shock performs on this bike, I also sub in a CC DB Inline. I swap these shocks up every month or so just to keep the ride feeling slightly different/Fresh
77 Designz chain guide
Magic Mary's have been swapped for Specialized Butcher up front and Slaughter (rear)

Jan. 30, 2015, 9:26 a.m.
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Jan. 30, 2015, 11:04 a.m.
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Altitude for Enderpo.

XL Frame for the research on reaches
Float CTD for WB clearance. Had a Float X but I want the WB more.
Fox 36 160
Almost 4 years on the XO shifter and derailleur
XT cassette and chain with OneUp 42T.
Next SL crankset with 34T
SixC35 cut to 780mm with a 40mm Atlas35 stem
Guide RSC brakes 200/180
Stan's hubs on 35mm wide carbons.

Jan. 30, 2015, 11:06 a.m.
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In action on 7 Summits - Not Enderpo.

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