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NSMB - 2014 – Hardtail Thread

Feb. 4, 2014, 11:44 a.m.
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TI is where it's at! Seriously if you can afford it nothing rides like TI.

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Feb. 4, 2014, 11:53 a.m.
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Canfield has a carbon version of the Yelli in the works. AM 29" with sub 420 CS.

Feb. 4, 2014, 11:59 a.m.
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Morgaman, you asked what was going to happen to the Stylus. It will be rebuilt this winter /Spring as last year just before the Samurai let Joely ride it and she said she liked it. So it will be built up to replace the frame she currently has. Better suited to her riding style any ways.

Bonus is…gives me a bike can borrow if needed.

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Feb. 4, 2014, 1:03 p.m.
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Go Ti and you'll fly.

TI is where it's at! Seriously if you can afford it nothing rides like TI.

Yeah, Im just waiting for another head injury so I do something stupid like ordering up a custom Ti frame!

Why slag free swag?:rolleyes:

ummm, as your doctor i recommend against riding with a scaphoid fracture.

Feb. 4, 2014, 1:09 p.m.
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Ti anyone?

http://www.konaworld.com/ti_explosif.cfm

Plus an offering from Thomson?

http://www.pinkbike.com/news/Thomson-Frame-and-Covert-Dropper-Seatpost-Core-Bike-2014.html

Shed head!

Feb. 4, 2014, 1:12 p.m.
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nice, but where's the ti honzo :thepimp:

"Nobody really gives a shit that you don't like the thing that you have no firsthand experience with." Dave

Feb. 4, 2014, 4:06 p.m.
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nice, but where's the ti honzo :thepimp:

That was the Raijin wasn't it?

Debate? Bikes are made for riding not pushing.

Feb. 5, 2014, 1:30 a.m.
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TI is where it's at! Seriously if you can afford it nothing cracks like TI. Especially one that Lynskey welded.

Fixed that for you!

Feb. 5, 2014, 7:14 a.m.
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TI is where it's at! Seriously if you can afford it nothing rides like TI.

"If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up"

Feb. 5, 2014, 8:14 a.m.
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What happened to Scandium? I had a scandium road bike that I found rode much smoother and more compliant than the 7005 Al frame it replaced.

Feb. 5, 2014, 8:31 a.m.
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Scandium? Didn't they crack as well after a couple of years of use?

Feb. 5, 2014, 8:52 a.m.
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That was the Raijin wasn't it?

honzo

raijin

the latter looks to be far more traditional/xc oriented: steeper head tube/slacker seat tube, longer rc, shorter fc, etc.

"Nobody really gives a shit that you don't like the thing that you have no firsthand experience with." Dave

Feb. 5, 2014, 9:23 a.m.
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That was the Raijin wasn't it?

nice, but where's the ti honzo :thepimp:

honzo vs. raijin… the latter looks to be far more traditional/xc oriented: steeper head tube/slacker seat tube, longer rc, shorter fc, etc.

What Omar said. My Raijin was by far the sweetest riding hardtail I have owned (and I have owned a lot of frames). Comparably light to carbon and real scandium (Niner One-9 original) frames but with a next level of "dance" when being ridden.

Compared to other steel frames I have owned the Honzo is super stiff and overbuilt, but - especially if you factor in that most people run a 140mm-150mm fork on them (slacker headangle, touch higher BB) - it is a beast on aggressive trails comparatively.

If it weren't for the necessity of sliding drops I wouldn't hesitate to ride a Taro instead for the weight savings.

Frankly, I think there is a HUGE - or at least huge in terms of people riding hardtail 29'ers - niche that isn't being filled by any currently available 29'er hardtails.

There are ultra-fun, but heavy [HTML_REMOVED] clunky, offerings from Chromag, Kona (Honzo), Niner (ROS-9).

There are some light(er), and amazing dancing/riding, offerings from the same, and other, companies made of titanium or "super steels," but they all have sketchtastic ™ XC-Race geometry.

Where are the light (or at least lightish) 4-to-5 pound, amazing-to-ride, titanium and "super steel" hardtail frames with slack "Shore-XC" geometry?

I agree you handsome devil!

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Feb. 5, 2014, 9:28 a.m.
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Scandium? Didn't they crack as well after a couple of years of use?

Or a couple months of use…ahem Rocky's first Scandium Turbo. I went through 2 from what I remember, then I cracked the second replacement's yellow standard Alu Turbo. Maybe it wasn't a good month for their welder;) Boy were they light though. Then like 5 years after that our team was using the first gen Norco Scandium/Carbon mix job, and while mine was fine, I think 2 or 3 of those went back because of cracks. But that is a lifetime ago now, now it's all carbon all the time, or heavy duty budget aluminum(it seams).

Kona's Big Unit is Scandium…decent geometry, super light, cheap, and sliding dropouts. But what's going on with that tall head tube?? It's unlike all the other hardtails they offer. I'd be all over that for a SS, but this ape isn't a fan of super high stack heights:)

Feb. 5, 2014, 3:40 p.m.
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I gotta say, what's with the variable head tube angle on the Raijin? I thought that was a trick only used in the road world to get bigger riders a longer reach out of the same wheelbase? It's common to see effective seat angles change with size on mountain bikes (in both directions) but head angles are almost always consistent.

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