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NSMB - 2014 – Enduro / Trail Bike Thread

March 13, 2014, 4:16 p.m.
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What's so special about the Monarch? You'd prefer that over a DBA CS?

There's nothing better than an Orangina after cheating death with Digger.

March 13, 2014, 5:46 p.m.
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DBA CS is played…..its all about the Monarch now.

March 13, 2014, 5:47 p.m.
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Try a BOS Kirk and you might forget about RS and CC…

March 13, 2014, 6:06 p.m.
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So I finally waved the white flag, realized I need to get myself a pedal friendly bike that can also be pushed a little. Settled on the following:

2013 Santa Cruz Blur LT size large

parts list:
Blur LT frame
Fox Float CTD shock
Fox Talus RC2 Fork 36mm
XT Rear Deraileur
SLX Front Deraileur
XT Shifters
FSA Carbon Cranks
Rock Shox Reverb Post
ODI Grips
Giant Bars
Chromag Saddle
Chromag Ranger Stem
Avid XO Trail Brakes
Mavic Crossmax SX Wheelset (tubeless)
Continental Trail King Tires
25.5lbs - will confirm this soon, some cold ones were drank when we scaled it at the shop

So far I'm really liking this bike

March 13, 2014, 6:13 p.m.
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That is light as hell. I remember a Enduro/All Mountain under 30 pounds being uber light. Thank you evolution

March 13, 2014, 6:45 p.m.
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scale shot?

March 13, 2014, 7:05 p.m.
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scale shot?

I'm with you. An aluminum Blur with a 36 and a Reverb is hanging near 30 lbs.

Sweet riding bike nonetheless!

March 13, 2014, 7:15 p.m.
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I'm with you. An aluminum Blur with a 36 and a Reverb is hanging near 30 lbs.

It will be over 30 lbs with that build.

March 13, 2014, 7:29 p.m.
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What's so special about the Monarch? You'd prefer that over a DBA CS?

I've never tried a DBA but I really like the Monarch+:

  • Smooth and plush when wide open for the DHs
  • Pedals nicely but still absorbs bumps well for singletrack when in the middle setting
  • Super firm for fire roads when in the firm setting.
  • Perfect for my use and I can rebuild it myself.
  • Cheaper too!
March 13, 2014, 7:37 p.m.
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I really like the Monarch+:

  • Smooth and plush when wide open for the DHs
  • Pedals nicely but still absorbs bumps well for singletrack when in the middle setting
  • Super firm for fire roads when in the firm setting.
  • Perfect for my use and I can rebuild it myself.
  • Cheaper too!

sounds like a properly tuned rp23, minus the hype

"Nobody really gives a shit that you don't like the thing that you have no firsthand experience with." Dave

March 13, 2014, 7:45 p.m.
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sounds like a properly tuned rp23, minus the hype

RP23 is ok but doesn't match a Monarch+ especially on the rebound stroke. The Rapid Recovery rebound stroke of the M+ is fantastic. I've ridden Suspensionwerx tuned shocks and was blown away when I swapped to a M+ shock on a Nomad and a also on my old SB66. I was also blown away when I swapped from a Push tuned RP23 to a stock Monarch RT3 on my TallboyC. And once again, I can rebuild and tune the RockShox shocks myself.

March 13, 2014, 8:35 p.m.
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^Yep. The Monarch Plus is quite the piece of equipment. A nice improvement over most inline shocks.

March 13, 2014, 8:51 p.m.
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I can rebuild and tune the RockShox shocks myself.

Huge for me too.

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- Morgman

March 13, 2014, 9:55 p.m.
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scale shot?

I'll try to get it to the shop, we did scale it there but maybe I am forgetting it wrong (there were some Pilsners swilled)

March 14, 2014, 7:21 a.m.
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RP23 is ok but doesn't match a Monarch+ especially on the rebound stroke. The Rapid Recovery rebound stroke of the M+ is fantastic. I've ridden Suspensionwerx tuned shocks and was blown away when I swapped to a M+ shock on a Nomad and a also on my old SB66. I was also blown away when I swapped from a Push tuned RP23 to a stock Monarch RT3 on my TallboyC. And once again, I can rebuild and tune the RockShox shocks myself.

Fully agree on this. Haven't tried the latest Fox inline with CTD but have had RP2, RP23 and a nicely tuned RP23 from James. Although the tuned RP23 was far more controlled and seemed to bridge the too much PSI, harsh ride - but pedals well, with low PSI and cushy ride - but pedals like crap setup issues, a stock Monarch Plus RC3 was at minimum on par with the tuned RP23 in that it provided a wider PSI range that was the sweet spot for nice ride but still can pedal, similar comments on the rebound too.

Needless to say I liked the Monarch+, but will say that the Vector Air HLR is another step up again, especially when the handling the rough. If I am riding more pedally terrain I add more HSC and LSC. It works not as quick as shifting a lever but it does what it should.

Haven't tried the CC DB or any BOS gear so no comments as to one being better.

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