Are they any good?
(thinking of putting them on my 5" 02 stinky)
Dreams of blood and iron
Are they any good?
(thinking of putting them on my 5" 02 stinky)
Dreams of blood and iron
i cant give any real rider input, but they do increase the leverage on the shock from 2.5:1 (5") to 3.5:1 (7"). 5" stinky shocks are 2" stroke, right?
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.
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this is how it was put to me: if you want a downhill bike with more travel, then buy a dh bike with more travel. so i did and now my wife has an awesome trailbike in the stinky and i have a great race bike in the bb7.
the stinky is not made for speed, more for hucking and jumping - and it does a very good job of it too.
sell the stinky and buy a real dh bike like a norco, balfa, oryx dho2, iron horse or something. those frames can be had for good prices.
longer travel plates put more stress on areas then the bike was intended for…
not to mention adding leverage to teh shock…. i wouldn't do it…
if u need more travel get a new frame…
In the long run you will want to upgrade your fame. Just do it now when you want to and don't have to cause something is broken. It will save you money and mabe a walk out of the woods.
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I have a set on my 2001 Stinky Deelux.
And they are great !
First point ! the lever ratio is increased from 2.5 to 3.5, but if you look around 3.5 is pretty common !!!!!! It ofcourse puts more stress on the seat stay, but so does changing the travel setting on many of the wonderful bikes out there today. The Stinky
has a pretty solid rear end, I weigh 205 lbs. and I haven't had any frame breakage, and I go pretty big, and I am not always the smoothest. If you are on the larger size, I would recommend
changing to an RC, but I ran mine with the stock Vanilla R for 8 months, and didn't have any problems.
The plates are alot stronger than the stock plates, alot less flex
in the rear end. The issues to consider are increased spring rate
100 - 200 lb increase - 24" rear for 7" setting. I run the 6.2" mostly for the shore, and 7" for Whistler… But that is a matter of preference…. Any way just my 2 cents from someone who has used them, and is still using them,( still using them after 1.5 years.
And for $ 150 for the plates… you have a totally new feel, the extra travel is worth it. And it handles everything I can throw at it.
Also, I have found as a rule to disregard anything Count Blah has to say, and go with the exact opposite. So far the RULE hasn't
failed me ! LOL ! Just kidding ?
Originally posted by Jamie
**I have a set on my 2001 Stinky Deelux.
And they are great !
First point ! the lever ratio is increased from 2.5 to 3.5, but if you look around 3.5 is pretty common !!!!!! It ofcourse puts more stress on the seat stay, but so does changing the travel setting on many of the wonderful bikes out there today. The Stinky
has a pretty solid rear end, I weigh 205 lbs. and I haven't had any frame breakage, and I go pretty big, and I am not always the smoothest. If you are on the larger size, I would recommend
changing to an RC, but I ran mine with the stock Vanilla R for 8 months, and didn't have any problems.
The plates are alot stronger than the stock plates, alot less flex
in the rear end. The issues to consider are increased spring rate
100 - 200 lb increase - 24" rear for 7" setting. I run the 6.2" mostly for the shore, and 7" for Whistler… But that is a matter of preference…. Any way just my 2 cents from someone who has used them, and is still using them,( still using them after 1.5 years.
And for $ 150 for the plates… you have a totally new feel, the extra travel is worth it. And it handles everything I can throw at it.Also, I have found as a rule to disregard anything Count Blah has to say, and go with the exact opposite. So far the RULE hasn't
failed me ! LOL ! Just kidding ? **
Great to get input from people that have the plates(not many users outhere)
Just a couple of questions…
1.Can i keep my front derrailleur in the 6" setting or will the derraileur cage hit the swingarm under full compression
2.Does it screw up the bikes geometry(high BB etc)?
3.Is it more of a rising or falling rate?
Thanks alot for your input
BTW i have a vannilla RC
Dreams of blood and iron
I've been considering the same upgrade as well (02 stinky). One major factor that has turned me off is that the BB height will increase an 1nch or so making the 69 degree head angle even steeper. Even when I go to a dual crown the slackest the head angle will be is ~68, which may not be slack enough for my liking. You could run a 24" but thats more $$ spent on the upgrade. Stoopid Kona should have had the forseight to offer more travel on their 2002"out of bounds bike", but then you get 6" on the deelux model of the same year? Dumb.
Originally posted by flattire
Stoopid Kona should have had the forseight to offer more travel on their 2002"out of bounds bike", but then you get 6" on the deelux model of the same year? Dumb.
I believe it's called product tiering. There is a differentiation in their product line to help you spend more money for more options, be it travel, or better spec. Furthermore it's not "stoopid" as you point out, rather a business practice that's been around for years, and is very apparent in all other bike manufacturers product lines to boot.
Originally posted by banjopete
I believe it's called product tiering. There is a differentiation in their product line to help you spend more money for more options, be it travel, or better spec. Furthermore it's not "stoopid" as you point out, rather a business practice that's been around for years, and is very apparent in all other bike manufacturers product lines to boot.
agreed… its like argueing that the XC bike cant do freeride…
if u need a certain type of bike, then u gotta pay for it… plain adn simple…
Originally posted by rbx
**Great to get input from people that have the plates(not many users outhere)
Just a couple of questions…1.Can i keep my front derrailleur in the 6" setting or will the derraileur cage hit the swingarm under full compression
2.Does it screw up the bikes geometry(high BB etc)?
3.Is it more of a rising or falling rate?
Thanks alot for your input
BTW i have a vannilla RC **
To answer your questions : 1) yes you can keep the derailler in the 6" setting , the cage will not hit the swingarm - however it will hit in the 7" setting.
2) the BB isn't too much higher at all, I didn't noticce any problems at all.
3) as far as rising rate or falling rate, I am not sure what that really means. - But I can tell you that the 7" setting is quite a bit more plush(linear feel to travel). And the 6.2" setting has a stiffer more progressive feel to it.
I found the original stock plates to run quite stiff( 5" travel ),
but with the DangerBoy, although only 2" more travel it has
transformed the bike, I am definitely happy with the UPGRADE !
Sure 24" rear may be an issue for some, but I am happy with it.
I am sure that even IFO can back me up on this point(TEAM BIGHIT……)
of course i'll have your back on teh 24"….
rear 24" OWNs…. i love it and WONT switch to 26"….
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dude i had them on my stinky, its fuckin rowdy! the way it transforms your bike is amazing! Makes it feel like a dh bike, its damn crazy. I totaly recomend you do it, hands down the best invesment i ever put into my stinky.
thanks for the input guys you convinced me im getting the plates:)
Dreams of blood and iron
agreed… its like argueing that the XC bike cant do freeride…
I think that may be an exaggeration. Stinky is obviously a "freeride" bike. I understand the tiering system, but who else does using near identical frames? Considering the stinky and stinky deelux have identical frames except the link plates I dont see the point in making them different.
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