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Need more carbon bits?

Nov. 22, 2012, 12:02 p.m.
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http://kettlecycles.com/?btp_product=siccc-sfl-bicycle-brake-rotors

I wonder about impact and scratch resistance. If these work as claimed could be pretty good though.

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Nov. 22, 2012, 12:13 p.m.
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Bikerumor said they weigh around 40g each.

http://www.bikerumor.com/2012/11/14/found-kettle-cycles-40g-siccc-carbon-ceramic-disc-brake-rotors/

Consider that a 200mm Avid rotor weighs nearly 200g so swapping to these rotors could save you half a pound for [HTML_REMOVED]$200 which is great. Providing they work well and are durable.

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Nov. 22, 2012, 12:26 p.m.
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Not intuitively a good idea from an engineering standpoint, but we shall see. The fact they are profile cut from a standard weave means the lay-up isn't oriented for optimal strength like, say, a carbon bar or frame. I don't think I'd run them.

Nov. 22, 2012, 12:32 p.m.
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The 2 piece look cool. Would be interesting to try them.

Nov. 22, 2012, 12:55 p.m.
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Not intuitively a good idea from an engineering standpoint, but we shall see. The fact they are profile cut from a standard weave means the lay-up isn't oriented for optimal strength like, say, a carbon bar or frame. I don't think I'd run them.

This. I don't know what epoxy they're using but I have doubts about the heat-handling characteristics considering the thickness of it would somewhat limit the amount of "ceramic" that is likely used in the composition, especially for long enduro descents. That and a good side impact on that run-of-the-mill 90-degree weave and explodey goes the rotor where a steel one could be bent back enough to salvage the ride to home/car.

Nov. 22, 2012, 1:01 p.m.
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Seems like a good enough material for Ferrari, Lamborghini and McLaren?

http://www.carbonceramicbrakes.com/ENG/Products/

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Nov. 22, 2012, 1:09 p.m.
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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kettlecycles/siccc-bicycle-brake-rotor-silicon-carbide-ceramic

Makes me wonder if it's a real product yet. Yes, my bike needs moar carbon.

Nov. 22, 2012, 1:13 p.m.
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Not sure about the application for bikes, but in the motorcycle world, carbon/carbon brakes need to be at a very high operating temperature to work properly. In the rain the MotoGP guys run steel discs. Not sure mtn biking would develop enough sustained heat to make these work better than metal … just a guess though.

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Nov. 22, 2012, 1:13 p.m.
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If you pledge $155 you get two rotors. That's cheaper than they'll cost in production I bet.

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Nov. 22, 2012, 1:17 p.m.
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Not intuitively a good idea from an engineering standpoint, but we shall see. The fact they are profile cut from a standard weave means the lay-up isn't oriented for optimal strength like, say, a carbon bar or frame. I don't think I'd run them.

It's possible that the standard weave is just a cosmetic outer layer?

Nov. 22, 2012, 1:36 p.m.
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In the rain the MotoGP guys run steel discs.

true and in F1 cars it takes a few hundredths of a sec for wet carbon rotors to heat up and work. They (kettle) do mention adding silicon carbide for bite though.

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Nov. 22, 2012, 1:42 p.m.
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Already in last week for two 160mm rotors. I'll only be using them on the road.

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Nov. 22, 2012, 3:08 p.m.
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Already in last week for two 160mm rotors. I'll only be using them on the road.

I think we should all thank sanrensho for beta testing these on our behalf. Brave man!

Nov. 22, 2012, 4:09 p.m.
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no 200mm option yet

Nov. 23, 2012, 7:37 a.m.
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Interesting that they claim better heat management. Carbon rims on road bikes have really poor heat management because the material does not conduct heat away from the brake track like an aluminum rim. Regular brake pads will melt.

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