Yes it is, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
long travel wagon wheelers
Posted by: dutch
my wreck fits on newer nsracks, but not older ones.
Rear tire isn't great, 2.3 magic mary touches the seat tube on hard hits.
You should be able to bend the prongs on the NSR a bit to get it to fit. I first had this issue with a Demo with a big head tube and Fox 40s. The Wreck's trombone head tube causes a similar issue. I widened the forward prongs just a bit and it's all good now.
Bending prongs is great, but I can't avoid clay laden mud on my home mountain :(
Posted by: dutch
my wreck fits on newer nsracks, but not older ones.
Rear tire isn't great, 2.3 magic mary touches the seat tube on hard hits.
2.4WT DHR II is similar in profile to the 2.3 MM right? Dang.
G16 fits fine on the 4across 1st Gen NSR4 racks. Same with my V10C and 40s.
Exchange rate + upgrade charges for other shocks made the Wreckoning a non-starter for myself.
145/160
Freedom of contract. We sell them guns that kill them; they sell us drugs that kill us.
Not usually an Ibis fan...but that's a nice looking bike. Too bad about the short seat tube...grrrrr...
Posted by: pedalhound
Not usually an Ibis fan...but that's a nice looking bike. Too bad about the short seat tube...grrrrr...
Not to mention the slack STA. I still really wonder how they measure that at a 76-77 degree STA. 16.5" seat tube on a large is rediculous.
If the published ESTA is the same across sizes then it's probably measured at the seat collar. Which means that for an XL rider it's much much slacker than that at pedaling height. It's like they resisted modernizing their geo for so long and now they've delivered half measures.
Posted by: craw
If the published ESTA is the same across sizes then it's probably measured at the seat collar. Which means that for an XL rider it's much much slacker than that at pedaling height. It's like they resisted modernizing their geo for so long and now they've delivered half measures.
If you look at their geometry diagram, it looks as though they measure STA at the intersection of a line drawn up from the BB, passing the back of the ST and intersecting with the reach line if it were extended back beyond the stack/reach intersection. Since the BB is a fair distance behind the ST, this gives a pretty bad indication of what the actual STA will be.
The main takeaway is that this isn't a steep seat tube angle.
Actually I think we've come to the conclusion that it IS a steep seat tube. Its been mentioned in a couple spots, I think I heard it in Jeff K-W's YouTube broadcast, that Ibis measured seat tube angle at different extensions depending on frame size, XL was at 810mm, L at 770 I believe.
Agreed. Looks like they do vary their STA so that it yields the same ESTA across sizes. Good for them!
Any bike without 75˚+ actual STA is unridable today.
Pretty much.
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