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May 7, 2018, 7:53 a.m.
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I have been watching GG for several years now. Was going to buy a Trail Pistol when I built my 29er. In the end it came down to $$ , I bought a Made in Canada frame set for roughly $600 less than the GG would have cost with a discount. Nice bike but spendy IMO , when they entered the market their Mega Trail frame was roughly $1150.00. couple years later it was approaching $2200.00.

May 7, 2018, 8:26 a.m.
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The GG bikes are looking really good, the Smash is very high on my list...great bike for taller riders. What bike did you end up going with DemonMike?

May 7, 2018, 8:33 a.m.
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Posted by: pedalhound

The GG bikes are looking really good, the Smash is very high on my list...great bike for taller riders. What bike did you end up going with DemonMike?

2017 Devinci Django 29" , I got the aluminum frame model taxes in for roughly $1900. The GG was going to cost $2050 USD . with the exchange rate and shipping/duties etc on top of that. I decided to buy a Canadian product.

I put a 150mm 36 up front , it,s only 120mm in the back , I just added a Corset to the shock and it has helped a lot.


 Last edited by: DemonMike on May 7, 2018, 8:45 a.m., edited 1 time in total.
May 8, 2018, 8:42 a.m.
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Posted by: DemonMike

Posted by: pedalhound

The GG bikes are looking really good, the Smash is very high on my list...great bike for taller riders. What bike did you end up going with DemonMike?

2017 Devinci Django 29" , I got the aluminum frame model taxes in for roughly $1900. The GG was going to cost $2050 USD . with the exchange rate and shipping/duties etc on top of that. I decided to buy a Canadian product.

I put a 150mm 36 up front , it,s only 120mm in the back , I just added a Corset to the shock and it has helped a lot.

Nice bike! I am waiting for them to put out a more aggressive geo 29er...I like the Django but don't think I want to go for less travel than the 135mm Prime I am on now.

May 8, 2018, 9:27 a.m.
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Posted by: pedalhound

Posted by: DemonMike

Posted by: pedalhound

The GG bikes are looking really good, the Smash is very high on my list...great bike for taller riders. What bike did you end up going with DemonMike?

2017 Devinci Django 29" , I got the aluminum frame model taxes in for roughly $1900. The GG was going to cost $2050 USD . with the exchange rate and shipping/duties etc on top of that. I decided to buy a Canadian product.

I put a 150mm 36 up front , it,s only 120mm in the back , I just added a Corset to the shock and it has helped a lot.

Nice bike! I am waiting for them to put out a more aggressive geo 29er...I like the Django but don't think I want to go for less travel than the 135mm Prime I am on now.

My plan is to get a more aggressive 29er down the road and lighten this one up.

Devinci is racing a 29" Spartan so they do have something in the works. Be interesting to see if they do a 29" Troy again .

The new EVO Stumpy in raw aluminum has peaked my interest as well . Not the most travel out there but a decent amount for what I ride and the geo looks really good as well.

And truthfully after riding a 170/167mm 26" and switching to a 150/120 29" I have pretty much crushed all my old PR,s up and down .

May 8, 2018, 2:17 p.m.
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Joined: May 11, 2017

Transition Sentinels are well worth a look.

Not super long travel but they ride fast and eat up the steep chunky trails on the shore. I was a touch concerned with the increased reach but after a handful of good rides I don't think I could go back to a regular reach number. My last bike was short. 460mm reach. At 500 on the sentinel everything works better. In particular hammering the pedals out of the saddle. Build kit vs. price is pretty competitive too.

May 9, 2018, 11:33 a.m.
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The Sentinal looks like a great bike, but the ST is too short for those of us with long legs. Longer droppers are not an answer as the extra leverage it puts on a frame is pretty huge...bigger frames, bigger people riding them and to make tiny seat tubes is just silly IMO.

I broke a first gen Transition Covert because of this...they told me I was riding beyond the intended purpose of the bike. Those that ride with me laughed at that...I like to stay in my comfort zone...hah. On the product page for the covert it showed Kevin doing a good 10" step up gapper on it...that is something I would never even think about doing. Anyway...I still love their bikes...but their ST's are always too short for me.

May 9, 2018, 12:32 p.m.
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Joined: March 18, 2017

Posted by: pedalhound

The Sentinal looks like a great bike, but the ST is too short for those of us with long legs. Longer droppers are not an answer as the extra leverage it puts on a frame is pretty huge...bigger frames, bigger people riding them and to make tiny seat tubes is just silly IMO.

I broke a first gen Transition Covert because of this...they told me I was riding beyond the intended purpose of the bike. Those that ride with me laughed at that...I like to stay in my comfort zone...hah. On the product page for the covert it showed Kevin doing a good 10" step up gapper on it...that is something I would never even think about doing. Anyway...I still love their bikes...but their ST's are always too short for me.

If you can justify the initial cost or someone that keeps bikes/frames for a while, have a serious look at the MOJO Geometron frames.  Seat tube length and head tube length increases with each size.  Shaq sizing gets longer CS length as well.  I don't fully understand the smaller diameter seat tube on XXL frames though. Maybe MOJO could add insight.

May 10, 2018, 2:43 p.m.
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Joined: Dec. 17, 2003

Posted by: Endur-Bro

Posted by: pedalhound

The Sentinal looks like a great bike, but the ST is too short for those of us with long legs. Longer droppers are not an answer as the extra leverage it puts on a frame is pretty huge...bigger frames, bigger people riding them and to make tiny seat tubes is just silly IMO.

I broke a first gen Transition Covert because of this...they told me I was riding beyond the intended purpose of the bike. Those that ride with me laughed at that...I like to stay in my comfort zone...hah. On the product page for the covert it showed Kevin doing a good 10" step up gapper on it...that is something I would never even think about doing. Anyway...I still love their bikes...but their ST's are always too short for me.

If you can justify the initial cost or someone that keeps bikes/frames for a while, have a serious look at the MOJO Geometron frames. Seat tube length and head tube length increases with each size. Shaq sizing gets longer CS length as well. I don't fully understand the smaller diameter seat tube on XXL frames though. Maybe MOJO could add insight.

A smaller inner dia with the same outer dia would give a stiffer tube? I don't know this is the case with the geometron. And nor will i need to find out - but those bikes ARE well thought out. I just need to sell my townhouse to buy one (seriously - when i sell my townhouse i'm buying one).


 Last edited by: nouseforaname on May 10, 2018, 2:47 p.m., edited 1 time in total.
May 10, 2018, 7:44 p.m.
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Trek Fuel EX 9.8 overforked with a 150mm MRP Ribbon.  This is a sick whip!!

May 10, 2018, 8:27 p.m.
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Joined: May 23, 2006

Everbody's talkin' about those Ribbons! What's the buzz?

May 10, 2018, 8:38 p.m.
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Joined: Nov. 6, 2005

This

Posted by: tungsten

Everbody's talkin' about those Ribbons! What's the buzz?

This is my 3rd MRP fork. They are just impressive. Simple to setup and adjust and easily tuneable with their Ramp Control. I am an outlier with suspension in general. I have always liked more obscure brands like BOS, Formula and now MRP.


 Last edited by: GladePlayboy on May 10, 2018, 8:41 p.m., edited 1 time in total.
May 10, 2018, 8:56 p.m.
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Joined: May 23, 2006

Interesting. What's your Trek like pedaling up steep grades 'cause it look like you're sitting over the back axle.

May 10, 2018, 9:06 p.m.
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Posted by: tungsten

Interesting. What's your Trek like pedaling up steep grades 'cause it look like you're sitting over the back axle.

Its fine.   Climbs well actually.   The overforking does affect the STA but its a reasonable trade off for me.

May 11, 2018, 1:54 p.m.
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Joined: Feb. 24, 2017

I have a Kona 153 29

At first I wasn't sure it was right after my old 650b 153, I'd set that up with a luftkappe & avalanche tuned dhx air, carbon wheels etc.

The new bike was heavy, climbs a lot better, but I wasn't happy on steep descents.

(Also say after 6 months Tranz-x budget dropper as good if not better than reverb & KS Lev)

Hope brakes, carbon bars, 11-46 xt cassette made a difference to weight.

Biggest difference was getting a novyparts damper to replace the moco in the Yari, like a different fork, & a different bike!

The wheels are still way too heavy, but rode a round of UK gravity endruro series in Scotland a few weeks  back (ridden same trails on my old bike for EWS 2 years ago) and the new bike is just epic.

Lighter wheels & a better rear shock on my upgrade list 

but it's still faster & more stable on steeps than my old 153, takes more muscle to lean it into corners, but it carries more speed out of them & unlike my old bike never throws the chain, no matter how rough.

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