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long travel wagon wheelers

July 9, 2018, 11:26 a.m.
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Posted by: DemonMike

https://enduro-mtb.com/en/lapierre-spicy-zesty-am/

this is one sexy looking machine IMO .

That bike looks awesome. They say they vary the layup to get ideal ride characteristics for each size. I wonder if they vary ESTA by size as well?

July 20, 2018, 11:23 a.m.
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So the biggest bike on the shore is officially here. XL Pole Evolink 158. Reach: 535, Stack: 652, ESTA: 78, HTA: 64, WB: 1353, CS: 455. 34.5lbs as pictured, which isn't bad considering how much metal is there. So far I love the geo. It's definitely long but not at all hard to ride; it's affecting my timing and balance point a bit for manuals but nothing I won't adapt to. It feels like the right length for my center of gravity. I can get it around the Kirkford corners without issue.

Pole Evolink 158


 Last edited by: craw on July 20, 2018, 11:25 a.m., edited 2 times in total.
July 20, 2018, 1:28 p.m.
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Beauty! Enjoy, that is a nice build too.

July 20, 2018, 2:36 p.m.
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What happened to the Sentinel?  Did it not work out for you, or is this an addition to the fleet?  That is a LOOOOONG bike!

July 21, 2018, 7:23 a.m.
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Posted by: shoreboy

What happened to the Sentinel?  Did it not work out for you, or is this an addition to the fleet?  That is a LOOOOONG bike!

Too small. The reach numbers seemed big on paper but in practice it was so small, like knees-hitting my bars-small even with a 50mm stem. I'm another ride in on the Pole and I like it more and more. I am getting tired of the double entrendres though.

July 21, 2018, 8:34 a.m.
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Posted by: craw

So the biggest bike on the shore is officially here.

In light of this news, a NQSFW PSA for the fathers out there:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFjBYjFHUIk

July 21, 2018, 11:35 p.m.
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Posted by: Taz123

My new steed - 2018 Evolve Alpha 29er - 160mm/150mm DVO suspension, Eagle and shy of 30#.

Not too rough in the pocket book either.


 Last edited by: bmak on July 21, 2018, 11:35 p.m., edited 1 time in total.
July 23, 2018, 2:22 p.m.
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How much travel is needed to be considered long travel?

This has 144mm rear travel with a 160mm fork. Wheels are of the wagon variety. 

July 23, 2018, 2:54 p.m.
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That's pretty fucking ace!

Need to see close ups of that pivot area.

July 23, 2018, 3:09 p.m.
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Posted by: Endur-Bro

That's pretty fucking ace!

Need to see close ups of that pivot area.

That is where I am hiding all the unfinished work. :)

The main rocker links are just blank bar with the bearing holes bored in them and two other mount holes, no shaping or finish work yet. I was too impatient to finish and go ride. I'll get more pics up later when I mill the links.

July 23, 2018, 9 p.m.
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Posted by: earleb

Posted by: Endur-Bro

That's pretty fucking ace!

Need to see close ups of that pivot area.

That is where I am hiding all the unfinished work. :)

The main rocker links are just blank bar with the bearing holes bored in them and two other mount holes, no shaping or finish work yet. I was too impatient to finish and go ride. I'll get more pics up later when I mill the links.

Cool cool.

Is this another single pivot based on a threaded bb like your 650b enduro bike from a few years back?

I'm interested in geo numbers: HTA, STA, Reach, BB drop, CS length, FC, RC, WB. I'm hoping you went extreme!


 Last edited by: Endur-Bro on July 24, 2018, 7:53 a.m., edited 1 time in total.
July 23, 2018, 9:35 p.m.
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jezley h christ, moar on that bike. much more. i hope you have no intentions of painting it.  

unless you have tubes in those tires though you may be taking a big risk. Conti's are not compatible with hookless rims and the WAO guys have experienced it and mentioned it explicitly. 

but nevermind that, what a stunner, must know more.

July 24, 2018, 9:32 a.m.
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Posted by: JBV

jezley h christ, moar on that bike. much more. i hope you have no intentions of painting it.  

unless you have tubes in those tires though you may be taking a big risk. Conti's are not compatible with hookless rims and the WAO guys have experienced it and mentioned it explicitly. 

but nevermind that, what a stunner, must know more.

It will likely get some rattle can paint. That or I need to spend a couple hundred hours properly filing and sanding my fillet brazing smooth and clean. As they say "grinder and paint make me the welder I ain't". This is only my fourth frame and still lots of improvement needed in my brazing. 

The details. 
NPC144

63ha. 

75.5sa. 

465mm reach. 

440mm chainstays. 

1260mm wheelbase. 

327mm bb height. 

160mm fork. 144mm rear travel. 

Suspension is progressive with a LR from 3.05 to 1.78. 

Shock is a Super Deluxe 230x65.

Running tubes with the Conti's and WAO rims.

I designed it with high anti-squat so it will climb well without needing any help from the compression switch on the shock. With the low bb I'll likely use the middle setting on the shock for technical climbing just to keep it higher in travel, but the first climb up No Quarter says it didn't needed it for any reason other than pedal strikes. 

What more do you want to know?

July 24, 2018, 10:24 a.m.
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Beauty of a bike dude! I like the numbers too, low n slack. Did you go with a shorter offset fork?

July 24, 2018, 10:54 a.m.
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Posted by: JBV

jezley h christ, moar on that bike. much more. i hope you have no intentions of painting it.  

unless you have tubes in those tires though you may be taking a big risk. Conti's are not compatible with hookless rims and the WAO guys have experienced it and mentioned it explicitly. 

but nevermind that, what a stunner, must know more.

I have been running my Trail Kings on hookless rims with some pretty low pressures for a while...with no issues, this is the first I have heard of this.

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