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How much rise?

June 25, 2020, 11:20 p.m.
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Need some advice

I am looking to add some rise to my bars.   I am currently on some cutlass bars with a 17 mm rise.  I find that on some fast techy straight away sections with drops like oilcan or on the one section of executioner near the bottom, I am pitched more forward than I like.  Hoping to counteract this with adding more rise but not sure how much.  Bars are not cheap so I want to get it right the first time.  I like the oneup bars but they only come in 20 an 35mm rise.  Is 35mm too much of a jump? Suggestions and advice please.

June 26, 2020, 6:38 a.m.
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I've got 35mm, 50mm and 80mm rise bars on my various MTBs. Really just depending how short the dang headtubes/steerers are. I know where I want my bars now and I just buy the rise I need to get there. That perfect place has changed over the years so I can't tell you what to do, but for me 35mm rise from 17mm rise is not a crazy huge change. You can always adjust the effective bar height with spacers above/below the stem assuming you can a bit of room there to maneuver.

June 26, 2020, 7:43 a.m.
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What’s your spacer situation? Can you play with spacers, at least temporarily, to get an idea of what feels good?

I don’t think you’ll notice much difference between 17 mm and 20 mm, so I’d go 35 mm, provided you have some spacers available to lower the new bars if you find them too high.

June 26, 2020, 8:46 a.m.
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Renthal makes a few 30mm rise bars. This might be a good compromise. 

https://www.renthal.com/cycle/fatbar

June 26, 2020, 10:11 a.m.
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Don't forget that wider bars need to be run a little higher, as a wider hand position pulls your torso down. 

Second the opinion about playing with spacers. I'd make adjustments in 5mm increments if you can. I find 10mm to be a pretty big change in feel. I run most of the time a fairly high setup 38mm rise Deity Blacklabel bars with 10mm under them and 10mm over on an XL Patrol (I'm 6'2").  I swap a spacer and go 5mm lower when I'm doing a high-country ride with lots of tech climbs and no boosty moves, helps keep the front down, but I don't like that setup for my everyday rowdy riding with lots of xcdh and mostly non-tech climbs.

June 26, 2020, 12:06 p.m.
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Switched over to Renthal bahs a few years back. 30 and 20mm rise in both cahbin and alloy flavours.  I enjoy the higher rise compared to the lower.

June 26, 2020, 5:04 p.m.
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i agree with all of the above, except for not making a big incremental change. i'd say go up to a 40mm riser at least. 50's are out there (Chromag FU40 is coming soon in an FU50) and maybe more?  i refuse to go up more than 20mm in spacers, less if possible to preserve the reach and to mitigate flex in that area. 

watched one of those Vorsprung videos, that guy is awesome. he was talking about fork dive and he said what some people refer to as fork dive is their fork working properly through the stroke. he said too many riders set their bars up so they feel ideal when JRA or climbing, but if you expect to bomb down trails with 160 + forks you have to set up your bars accordingly higher as you're going to be down in the travel during the whole fun part of the trail.  mind blown...

i thought that was brilliant and selected my new bike putting more thought into both ETT and stack, not getting caught up as much in reach. with a properly high stack for my preference and style, and 15mm spacer, with 40mm riser bar, i feel the bike set up is better than any i've had before and i'm more comfortable and i think, the better rider for it.

June 26, 2020, 9:13 p.m.
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Thanks everyone for taking the time To respond.  I will try a 35mm.  Anyone have a discount code for a one up bar?

June 27, 2020, 8:35 a.m.
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Min is 30mm for me , and add a stem with some rise as well. Oh plus I run a few spacer under for adjustment if needed.

Running carbon 31.6mm Renthal 40mm rise with a 6deg Apex stem.

June 27, 2020, 12:36 p.m.
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Posted by: Mike-E

Thanks everyone for taking the time To respond.  I will try a 35mm.  Anyone have a discount code for a one up bar?

You ok with the One Up sweep? If you're used to bars with more sweep like Race Face, Deity etc they feel very straight.

June 28, 2020, 7:58 a.m.
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The chromag bar I am running is 5 back 8 sweep so it is exactly what the same as the One Up.

I do have some spacers on the underneath but don’t want to mess around with that too much as it will change my reach.

July 3, 2020, 7:58 p.m.
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Made a jump from 20 to 40 this year along with a bit extra sweep to address some wrist pain. I say make a big change to really see how it feels. 

Worth going with a heavy cheap bar or two before investing in a high end offering  

I keep all my old bars to use them as mules for fit.

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