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Help me make up my mind - Im deadlocked!

Which bike?


New 2016 but with BOS and warranty
0%
Fresh'ish but used 2018
100%
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July 12, 2018, 11:26 a.m.
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Time for a different DH sled for me and I'm making a move today or tomorrow.

Would you choose:

1) Brand new 2016 bike at deep discount because its got BOS F/R suspension. Well spec'd otherwise. Seems that fork servicing is still possible, at least right now, but rear not serviceable.

or

2) Essentially the same frame, but 2018 and with 10-15 days on it. Looks like F & R FOX both require the 30hr. Assuming bike is in awesome shape - haven't seen it yet but am doing so soon. Prepared to buy on spot if checks out.

Summary of Differences:
#1 will be $3/400 more upfront (all in), but that diff largely eaten up should I pay someone to do the 30hr services and I need diff springs for fork and shock for #2 before I ride it, pain in the ass all around. #1 is a new bike with full warranty and spring set up is fine for my weight.

So it boils down to new 2016 bike with sketchy suspension service situation but with warranty at about same price as pretty-fresh, but still used 2018, with trustworthy suspension that is due for minor service.

Components on the bikes are different but both pretty blinged out.

Vanity stuff: prefer look of 2018 but like look of 2016.

July 12, 2018, 11:35 a.m.
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Serviceability of suspension is a big factor if you’re planning on keeping the bike for any length of time. A new fork and shock for a DH bike, even if picked up used, could easily add another $1200-$1500 to your costs.

July 12, 2018, 11:41 a.m.
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Yeah, only viable option for #1 would be to buy and stockpile a bunch of fork servicing kits and hope that nothing else goes wrong up front. Or I can put new Fox upfront for an additional $700. But that skews the math in favour of the 2018 as after I have 10days on it, the two bikes are really the same - and ones a 2016.

July 12, 2018, 12:23 p.m.
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Is there any difference in the frame re geometry?

July 12, 2018, 12:24 p.m.
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Same frame, diff colours.

2016 Maiden unlimited new versus 2018 used Maiden

July 12, 2018, 12:24 p.m.
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What’s the make/model of the bike?

July 12, 2018, 12:26 p.m.
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Any history of breakages or other issues with the Maiden frame?

July 12, 2018, 12:33 p.m.
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Don't believe so. The warranty would be nice but if I had concerns, I wouldn't be looking at it. Warranty a small plus in my mind.

July 12, 2018, 12:41 p.m.
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Yup. It seems to be peace of mind warranty vs suspension serviceability. 

Part of the equation is also how hard and how often will you be riding this thing. What are you more likely to spend money on in the future, new frame or new suspension?

July 12, 2018, 12:56 p.m.
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I would hope to spend money on neither!

This would replace my 2015 Banshee Legend for 2/3rds park and 1/3rd Cypress shuttling.

Park passes have me in the park 1 day/week on average. Ideally this is a bike for 2 or 3 years. Hopefully 27.5 wheels don't stop rolling as 29rs hit the trails, because they're coming!

July 12, 2018, 2:04 p.m.
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Posted by: Ddean

I would hope to spend money on neither!

This would replace my 2015 Banshee Legend for 2/3rds park and 1/3rd Cypress shuttling.

Park passes have me in the park 1 day/week on average. Ideally this is a bike for 2 or 3 years. Hopefully 27.5 wheels don't stop rolling as 29rs hit the trails, because they're coming!

it's just a thought as to what is most likely to go wrong and what it will cost you to fix it. my guess would be you'd have suspension worries before frame worries.

July 12, 2018, 2:10 p.m.
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Probably yes. It seems like 2018 is the choice...which I'm agreeing with. A dozen used days will mean nothing at the end of the summer and then I have a 2018 with no suspension concerns vs a 2016 that I'm rolling the dice on still.

July 12, 2018, 2:25 p.m.
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Posted by: Ddean

Probably yes. It seems like 2018 is the choice...which I'm agreeing with. A dozen used days will mean nothing at the end of the summer and then I have a 2018 with no suspension concerns vs a 2016 that I'm rolling the dice on still.

Congrats on a good choice. Please pay the receptionist on your way out. Next.

July 12, 2018, 3:48 p.m.
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I thought BOS suspension was ultra reliable and rarely needed servicing. Kind of like older Marz products.

July 12, 2018, 4:04 p.m.
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Service intervals are longer than others, correct. The shocks and forks seem to have received good reviews but business relationships between those who service(d) the products and the company have blown up. It seems that the only still connected service shop in Canada is in PQ, and who knows how long that will last. The only one in the US appears to be in Vegas, but that also looks sketchy.

Fork service parts and oil (proprietary)  seem to be available now so Id want to stockpile those just in case those disappear one day, and Id pray that nothing breaks. Shocks seem more challenging.

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