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Fox inverted

May 30, 2011, 10:35 a.m.
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I guess I am more tired than I thought. I thought it was you that said higher unsprung originally, but it's JCL. You and I are agreeing, and I didn't realise it. :P

Thanks for letting me be Bill Nye the silly guy. Speedo science may one day take over.

May 30, 2011, 4:48 p.m.
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The Kowa inverted I've been running for the last year has been the best feeling/performing race/play fork I've ever ridden: 40mm stanchions, Kashima coated stanchions and internals, air sprung, reb [HTML_REMOVED] hi/low comp adjusts, infinite travel adjust, less than 7.5lbs.
Be hard for Fox to top it, but I'm curious as to what they've come up with…

These??

Can I get some too please??

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May 30, 2011, 4:49 p.m.
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or these…

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May 30, 2011, 5:17 p.m.
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I guess I am more tired than I thought. I thought it was you that said higher unsprung originally, but it's JCL. You and I are agreeing, and I didn't realise it. :P

There's not a chance that those sliders with the most probably bonded dropout/brake mount would be close to as low unsprung as a cast magnesium Boxxer lower. Even if it's an air system I doubt it would have as low unsprung as a Boxxer team. It won't be a torsionally stiff either but if you believe the crap on Pinkbike thats sweet because suspension that deflects offline is the way motorsport suspension is designed LOL!

Makes you wonder why Fox uses 40mm stanchions on the 40? Surely they should have run 30mm to allow the fork to deflect….:agree:

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May 30, 2011, 5:19 p.m.
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looks like a short steer tube. what is it?

06 KX450F.

Scale shot will be coming once I have it, cuz I'm interested. I seriously doubt it's 30 lbs.

May 30, 2011, 6:22 p.m.
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Makes you wonder why Fox uses 40mm stanchions on the 40? Surely they should have run 30mm to allow the fork to deflect….:agree:

So if the conventional Fox 40 is the end all to be all, why would Fox bother with the inverted design?

Is it possible that Fox sees something that you don't?
(although it could be purely a sales thing, but I'd like to think of Fox in a higher regard then that)

Funny side note, when Moto's first went to the upside down design, a ton of people complained that they were too stiff because the the large diameter uppers. The forks didn't offer enough flex in the longitudinal direction. If the forks are too stiff in the torsional direction this can also be a complaint or problem. Pinkbike is not the only ones appearently that think a little deflection can be good.

May 30, 2011, 6:32 p.m.
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the 40 is garbage

unless they pull out a miracle, this will be inverted garbage

May 30, 2011, 7:12 p.m.
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So if the conventional Fox 40 is the end all to be all, why would Fox bother with the inverted design?

Is it possible that Fox sees something that you don't?
(although it could be purely a sales thing, but I'd like to think of Fox in a higher regard then that)

Funny side note, when Moto's first went to the upside down design, a ton of people complained that they were too stiff because the the large diameter uppers. The forks didn't offer enough flex in the longitudinal direction. If the forks are too stiff in the torsional direction this can also be a complaint or problem. Pinkbike is not the only ones appearently that think a little deflection can be good.

If you look at later years kyb forks they are actually feeding flex into the upper legs because they were too stiff. Your bike and mine have these forks with the shaved material.

The older RM right side up forks were considered one of the best forks on the market, until Zuk changed them to inverted because of public pressure.

2 weeks ago I dnf'd a race because my fork twisted in a crash. Its just the nature of inverted forks, even if the are off an mx bike.

I'd be guessing Fox won't be switching over to inverted because of added stiffness. Instead I bet they are looking at reducing manufacturing costs and possibly giving into marketing hype a little.

June 1, 2011, 5:40 a.m.
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or these…

Yup, that's what I'm on. Couldn't see that first pic, but if it was the gold ones, they are the same fork with different ano.

http://www.kowa-ss.co.jp/mtb.html

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June 2, 2011, 3:33 a.m.
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Yup, that's what I'm on. Couldn't see that first pic, but if it was the gold ones, they are the same fork with different ano.

http://www.kowa-ss.co.jp/mtb.html

If I order today, will they come radiation free?

too soon?

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June 2, 2011, 5:10 a.m.
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The Kowa inverted I've been running for the last year has been the best feeling/performing race/play fork I've ever ridden: 40mm stanchions, Kashima coated stanchions and internals, air sprung, reb [HTML_REMOVED] hi/low comp adjusts, infinite travel adjust, less than 7.5lbs.
Be hard for Fox to top it, but I'm curious as to what they've come up with…

wow. been using kashima since 1999.

http://video.mpora.com/watch/WMNkbKLMh/

June 2, 2011, 9:04 a.m.
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Yup, that's what I'm on. Couldn't see that first pic, but if it was the gold ones, they are the same fork with different ano.

http://www.kowa-ss.co.jp/mtb.html

Sooooo - what would it cost to get me a pair??

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http://www.citizenclass.ca

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