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Did Somebody say Steel?

Dec. 8, 2010, 5:38 a.m.
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I'm not super-stoked on the geo, personally. long chainstay, short wheelbase, tall bb, steeper head angle.

exactly. drop the bb 1", cut the stays 1", and kick the h/a out 2*, and it'd be a contender. i'm surprised they haven't updated the numbers to make it current, i like the thing otherwise - i'm a big fan of high pivot link bikes [HTML_REMOVED] steel. i actually came very close to buying one when they first came out, but the numbers swung me towards a pdc instead.

Dec. 8, 2010, 7:46 a.m.
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yeah I love high pivot bikes but that angles on that bike just are not my cup of tea.

Dec. 8, 2010, 8:49 a.m.
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Some clarifications:

The rear axle is 12mm x 150mm spacing (not a quick realease).

Frame weight (including shock and steel spring) is about 12 lbs. For the record, that white Scarab in the pic weighed in at 37.5lbs.

Keep in mind that this frame was designed in ~2004 (and hasn't been changed since), so of course the geometry is a little dated.

All that said, I've ridden/raced a few different DH bikes since my Scarab, and I while I may be a "little" biased - I miss it a lot.

Dec. 8, 2010, 10:06 a.m.
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That OP's pic looks like its in C's garage.

www.northshorebillet.com

Dec. 8, 2010, 11:16 a.m.
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How's this one for you. ;-)

http://www.colnago.com/bikes/2011/master-x-light

i think ur link doesnt work..

all i see is some lame looking steel road bike ???

:grinno:

Dec. 8, 2010, 11:37 a.m.
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but then most steel bikes arent very pleasing to the eye.

i guess its all about the individual's eyes, eh?….Yes they are all hardtails, not too many steel dually's out there.

Dec. 8, 2010, 12:29 p.m.
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yea i'd rather have a Cove stiffee then any of those steel HT's..

i think the closest bike in steel i ever got to thinking about owning was a Balfa BB7… back in the day those bikes were a maazing design that was also pleasing to the eye.but i suppose thats cuz 1/2 the frame was alloy maybe..

Dec. 8, 2010, 1:15 p.m.
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yea i'd rather have a Cove stiffee then any of those steel HT's..

You're clearly on Cove's payroll though!

treezz
wow you are a ass

Dec. 8, 2010, 1:41 p.m.
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You're clearly on Cove's payroll though!

i wish..

sorry Bro i pay for every part i own..

well Team visa does anyways..:rocker:

Dec. 8, 2010, 2:52 p.m.
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yea i'd rather have a Cove stiffee then any of those steel HT's..

Spoken like someone who hasn't spent any time on a steel HT.

Dec. 8, 2010, 5:53 p.m.
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yea i'd rather have a Cove stiffee then any of those steel HT's..

No sale.

Dec. 8, 2010, 8:20 p.m.
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Man both the Dark and the Cromag are killer.. i am a suck for clear on cromo..

Dec. 8, 2010, 11:44 p.m.
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Ugly… looks heavy and dentorific. It's not 2002 any more.

Dec. 8, 2010, 11:46 p.m.
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Spoken like someone who hasn't spent any time on a steel HT.

Steel hardtails are over rated, more than anything. They're still rigid and dent easy.

Dec. 9, 2010, 2:30 p.m.
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Steel hardtails are over rated, more than anything. They're still rigid and dent easy.

After riding a couple of super rigid/beefy aluminum hardtails with big boxy square chainstays and then switiching to steel I noticed a huge difference in how I felt after a couple of hours in the saddle - especially on rides with lots of DH.

I can't say that the steel hardtails performed better than the aluminum ones - but I did notice that I felt less fatigued.

In a lot of cases the aluminum HT's probably perform better, but they can take a lot out of you. It makes a difference. That's what I like about them.

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